90 Day The Last Resort- S2 E18 "Tell All Part 1"

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[00:00:37] Welcome to Reality Day Times Two, the podcast where we discuss all the trash reality TV we love to hate. I am Tanyka, and today we are going to be doing the first part of the Last Resort-S2. Before we do, let's just do a quick announcement and we'll get into the hot costs. So, yep, quick announcement. Patreon.

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[00:02:03] We have already talks teed up for up until September. So, come on over there and join the fun. So, that's the announcement. So, let's get into some hot goss. So, first piece, this is Love is Behind related. This is with respect to the reunion and kind of what was said about Jimmy.

[00:02:33] So, Jimmy is now speaking out to where he did about a day after the reunion, actually, to provide some clarity about his involvement with Ben and Sarah. And Jimmy said he was connected to Ben in May of 2024 after Ben finished filming, which Jimmy noted is, quote, pretty standard protocol. He was put in touch with people from past seasons during his run on the hit series.

[00:02:58] Quote, it's solely to help them navigate that period of time where you probably have a ton of anxiety waiting for your season to air to see how you'll be portrayed. The Zinn's Five alum admitted that he feels slighted, but he's being pointed out for giving bad advice. Jimmy stressed that he was just a sounding board for Ben.

[00:03:24] Jimmy went on to say that Ben was very anxious about the reunion. The advice I gave was pretty simple. Like, yeah, you just enjoy the moment, enjoy the ride, and don't sweat it until that time comes. Despite getting caught up in the drama, he's not no bad blood against Sarah and Ben. He continued, I'm not mad at them. I think it's TV, and both of their backs were against the wall.

[00:03:51] He probably trusted her telling her my conversations with them, and she either misconstrued that information or that's just a total lie because her back was against the wall. Why would I tell them to come together to rehearse reunion questions? Well, I definitely didn't say that, but I do think that it's great advice to see what the internet has to say and then come prepared to the reunion.

[00:04:18] So, I mean, anything is possible with Jimmy, honestly. Anyways. Next, and this is again also Love is Blind related. This one's a little more interesting, guys. So, Madison and a woman named Cassandra Barron didn't potentially need Love is Blind to discover their compatibility. So, the women who participated in the Love is Blind Season 8 revealed that living together during the pause

[00:04:47] wasn't the first time that their paths had crossed. During an interview with NPR News on March 11th, Cassandra, who's 30, said she and Madison realized that they knew each other from previously matching on a dating app. Which, this is interesting. This never came up. It would have been really, I mean, it shouldn't have to come up, honestly. It should have just, whatever. But it would have been really interesting to kind of see how both Mason and Alex would have taken this information.

[00:05:16] Seeing how the other idiot there didn't take the information from Brittany very well either. So, anyways. So, anyway, Cassandra said, quote, quote,

[00:06:01] And now we're best friends. So, it's great. That same day, Madison also shared the story during an appearance on Caitlin Bistro's Off the Vine podcast. Saying, quote, I was just kind of nervous. Like, the gay panic set in. I was like, oh my god, do I say something? Do I not? I just ended up saying something. I also didn't know how comfortable she was. And so, I didn't want to say anything on camera either.

[00:06:28] So, I just said something, I think, the next day at breakfast. Since then, things between them have stayed platonic. Quote, She kind of had a thing. She has, or she was on and off with this one guy. And so, I think when she got to the pods, she was like, oh, I miss him. So, coming back, you're just always besties. So, that's that. Yeah. That's news. But it's, I hope she finds happiness. Because, yeah. Madison's great. Sometimes.

[00:06:59] Honestly. Anyways. Next piece of podcast. And this is also lives blind related. So, we're going to end it off on this one. So, Mallory from, I can't remember what season. I'm sure this will remind me. Season two. So, Mallory Zapata is engaged. So, she revealed her happy news on Instagram on March 18th. Sharing photos of the romantic proposal. Including the moment when her fiance, Arlimas, got down on one knee.

[00:07:27] He popped the question in Tokyo, in the height of the picturesque, I'm fine, cherry blossom bloom with stunning marquee-shaped ring. Quote, chapter 36 just started, but I'm ready to spend forever with you, she wrote in the post caption. Thank you for making this the most unforgettable birthday full of adventures, happy tears, laughter, and lots of love.

[00:07:53] Photos show the couple embracing and sharing a kiss or two against the backdrop of the cherry blossom trees with views of the iconic Tokyo Tower in the distance. In one shot, she offers a close-up look at her ring as she holds her fiance's hand. The couple have kept their relationship mostly under wraps and Arlimas keeps his social media private.

[00:08:19] Malory debuted their romance in July 2024 as they attended a set of music festivals together. At the time, the former reality star shared a pair of selfies of the two smiling together along with a photo of their matching shoes. During Malory's season, if we don't remember, she engaged to fellow contestant Sal Perez, our little, you know, ukulele. Was it ukulele? What did he do? Ukulele?

[00:08:47] Um, when she turned down, um, what was his name again? What's his name again? No wonder. Jared. When she turned down Jared's proposal. Yeah, that seems great. But the two did not marry at the altar, as we know. So, yeah, that is that piece of hot costs. And that's the end of the hot costs. So, let's move into the reason we're here.

[00:09:13] And that is The Last Resort Season 2, Episode 18, Tell All Part 1. So, we start off with, what the fuck Rob and Josh arrive together because bad boys forever. Am I right or am I right? And, um, and he's like, yeah, you know, he handled my wife. It's fine, though. We're cool now. Stacy is like, my boobs are popping out.

[00:09:43] Fix my top. Fix my top. Fix my top. And she's literally making him fix the top of her dress. Or her clothes, whatever she's wearing here. I love her. Ari is like, you know, the guys are going to take Benny's side. But, like, they need to, like, look at the facts. Okay, so, Ari, the facts are that he didn't cheat on you. He was actually with someone when he met you. So, he technically cheated on her with you. Those are the facts. Let it go.

[00:10:13] You know what I mean? Just enough. Anyways. Benny comes in looking stylish in his African colors. I loved it. Gino and Florian talk, and he's like, Jano says, things with Jasmine changed real quick. I got some dirt. If Matt comes here, I got dirt on him, too. And I'll make him cry. What the hell was this?

[00:10:41] I'm going to make him cry, okay? I'm going to make him cry. Oh, man. That's, that was amazing. Okay, so then Sophie and Rob see each other. And y'all, her boobs, or her boobs are different. Bigger. She got a boob job. And he definitely notices that the boobs are just there. Like, he's trying so hard not to look at her boobs, but he's really not doing a good job of not looking at her boobs.

[00:11:08] And then she's like, there's something in your teeth. And she's literally picking this thing out of his teeth. And then we'll see later. But she literally says to him, do you want to see my boobs? Like, literally, like, let me flash my boobs to you. More on that later.

[00:11:31] Um, Benny, when they're walking out to the set, or should I say, well, he is moonwalking to the set. Benny, stop it. Okay, stop it. Michael Jackson asked you politely to stop. And I love, okay, I love Michael Jackson. I'm all about the moonwalk. I get it. But when you're doing it constantly, it's a little much. Anyways. So we then head out to the set.

[00:12:00] And again, I'm not going through it a little bit here before we get to the set. Obviously. So we head to the set. We have the woman on one side and the man on the other side. What in the damn? We're going to get a quote-unquote explanation. Um, but I'm going to say this right now. I hated it. I hated this men against men shit. It was, I think, a recipe for disaster. I think they really failed on this, honestly.

[00:12:28] But anyways, we notice Jasmine's not here. Where's Jasmine? Sean's coming out and we have no Jasmine. Then we see Jasmine in the car heading to the doll. And we hear the guy saying, I know we are running a little bit late or a little bit behind. Like, it wasn't planned. Like, it wasn't planned. Don't fool me about, oh, I know we're running late.

[00:12:58] No, you know what you're doing. Don't try to fool me. I ain't stupid. I was born at night, but sure as hell wasn't last night. Okay? Okay. So, um, Jasmine mentions here that it's been a while since she's seen Gino. So we're going to start without Jasmine because we understand the assignment here. Um, so yeah.

[00:13:25] And we do hear, you know, once we're kind of starting, we're starting with ours, we're starting the actual tell-all or whatever. The therapists are going to be coming out later, so we'll see how that's going to, this is going to be really interesting. And they're also going to be talking about some of the things that were said during In Between the Shades as well. So it's going to be great. And then this is when they say the explanation for splitting the men and the women up.

[00:13:50] So the women and the men apparently just so gravitated towards each other during this experience that we've arranged them in that way. Do you want to know why it's been this way? Because we have the Men's Rights Now Committee, Rob being the freaking president and CEO. I don't know, it's the same thing. And, you know, this is why it's that way.

[00:14:18] Anyways, so Natalie and Josh have apparently seen each other since, you know, being at the resort, but now they don't talk. They are not friends. More on that later. Gino, how are we doing? How are things? And he's like, well, Sean, usually I come out here and I usually have good news for you. Good news, for example, like me and her and having sex, that's great news.

[00:14:48] But I don't have any good news for you this time around because we're separated. And everyone collectively is like, well, that's not fucking news. Seriously. Actually, it's about time. Stacy feels that they are going backwards or on Florian. More on that later. Brandon says, listen, I want to thank the therapist for helping us.

[00:15:13] But I feel like she is more focused on what she wants to achieve. Meanwhile, I'm not getting anything. And she's like, I am. And I don't regret that. I mean, there has to be, this is, this kind of is a little recurring because of, I've been kind of dealing with some stuff with my partner. Then I'm like, can we just get this, get things done, you know? So we can move on to the next thing.

[00:15:42] Why can't you do what you need to do with your parents when there's kind of a lull in that? Go ahead and get that second opinion. I don't know. Maybe I'm just asking for too much. Anyway, Ari and Minnie are not filing for divorce, if ever. Sean is like, well, since you guys are not getting divorced, then what's your dynamic? Split. Their dynamic is split.

[00:16:10] They are not together. They are co-parenting. I think that is it. If someone makes a joke, open relationship? Too soon, I think, for Jaina. So Rob and Sophie have seen each other. Sophie explains that they didn't see each other for months after the recommitment ceremony.

[00:16:37] But then she kind of says, well, then out of nowhere, or just, you know, for no reason, we start having sex. Just like, just calm, cool, and collected just like that. What do you mean for no reason? There are reasons for everything. Even if it's the simplest of reasons, there are reasons for everything. But I'm going to hold my thoughts until the very end.

[00:17:00] But Josh has to insert his stupid self and be like, you know, yeah, I think like the reasons like they had sex were like the same reasons that me and Natalie had sex. It was multiple times. Where did you, where, what did, what did you, why? I, we weren't talking about you, sir. We were talking about Rob and Sophie. This is not as bad. But this is like, um, Anon inserting himself.

[00:17:29] He's like, you don't like my marriage. You don't like my marriage. Sorry, Mr. Ark. You don't like my marriage. It's kind of like that. No talking to you, Josh. Like, what is happening? Ugh. Anyways, more on that later. So then Jasmine's here. We're kind of seeing her, you know, getting ready, walking to the set. And then she comes out, baby bump and all.

[00:17:59] And Natalie is so shocked. She's thinking she's getting creative before me. And Rob is like, what the fuck? Y'all, I'm just going to say right now, Rob's reaction with Jasmine is deporable. It is disgusting. And we're going to get into it. So just trigger warning for general misogyny.

[00:18:26] Anyways, she's like, you're pregnant. And, and Sean asks, like, when are you due? And Jasmine's like, well, I don't really want to share when I'm due. It's like a superstition. Only people close to the family are going to know, like, when you're due, the gender, and all that situation. No, no.

[00:18:53] The, the how many weeks you are along has nothing to do with the suspicion, but everything to do with the timeline. And you don't want Gino to know the timeline of when you got pregnant. That is all this is. That is bullshit. And I would have actually had more respect for Jasmine if she just said, I don't want Gino to know. Point blank, period. Anyways.

[00:19:19] Um, and she feels, you know, tired, constipated. And then Sean's like, well, do you want to say hi to Gino? She's like, hi. It's very awkward. It's really awkward. And Sean's like, whew, that was chilly. Not about as chilly as the blood to become, Sean.

[00:19:47] So, Gino, are you the father? Didn't realize Mari was on the show. Damn it. And just like Mari, he was going to say, you are not the father, Gino. It's Matt's. Um, and then Sean's like, is anyone surprised by that? No.

[00:20:16] No. Why? Okay. You can simply be surprised that she didn't use protection. But, damn. She explains it was not a planned pregnancy. I do believe it wasn't. But at the same time, like what happened? Don't, don't even, don't even tell me the condom broke. That is bullshit. Don't tell me the condom broke. You guys never used it. Or maybe you used it initially and then you just said, forget it. Sean asks, you wanted to have a baby with her, Gino.

[00:20:46] So like, how do you feel about like that part? That would, that would hurt. Because I kind of understand how that feels. A little different than this. But I do understand how that feels. It is, that, that would be really painful. So he says it's heartbreaking. But of course, again, Gino, I ask, do you know how babies are made? You do need to have sex in order to have a baby. I'm just saying. And she's like, you know, she told me no. And then she goes, he gets pregnant.

[00:21:16] And then if Florian and Rob, she says, Sean says like, they told you that this was a bad idea. And it's at that point, you know, so, oh no, here we go. So Sean is basically like, okay, so like, what do you say now? And Rob says, well, it turned out how I thought it would. And he goes on to say that she wanted to be with Matt. Do I, do I, hmm.

[00:21:46] Do I think that she wanted to be with Matt? I think, I think she thinks that she didn't want to be. But you are building this sort of something with this man behind your husband's back initially. So I don't know if she necessarily wanted to be with Matt. Like, at least, like, believed it herself type of situation.

[00:22:11] Um, so I mean, to say that she wanted to be with Matt is, we don't know that for sure. Anyway, Jasmine says, I could care less what you have to say. My marriage, it didn't work. And that is also like, it's not all on Jasmine. It is also Jane's fault for the reason the marriage didn't last or didn't work.

[00:22:39] Like, um, and she says, you know, yours didn't last either. Again, both parties are responsible for it not working. Um, and she says, like, I take accountability for my part. And Rob says, well, mine looked better than yours. And I said, did it though? Really?

[00:23:06] Like, at least, you know, Jasmine lived in the same house. Any who's. Um, and she's like, do I need to explain myself to you? And then this bitch of a man literally mimics her accent like a dick and says, no, you don't need to explain yourself to me. Like, I don't want to mimic it back, but like kind of doing the, you know, the, but he's

[00:23:36] mimicking her. There's a way to get your point across without mimicking her. Cause now you sound xenophobic and it's completely unnecessary and gross. And I hate him. Um, and, um, she ends up calling him a clown, which spot the lie because there's, I think she's completely done the truth.

[00:24:03] And he calls her, and I quote, a pregnant whore. Okay. It was at this point that I'm like, get this asshole off of my screen. Listen, like I said in the thing in the last episode, do I think Jasmine made the right decisions in this situation? Absolutely freaking not. Not even close.

[00:24:30] However, to act like Jasmine has done all of the wrong and acting like Gina was a holier than thou, he did nothing wrong, that mentality is not helpful. Rob now calling her names is not helpful. And what is it to you? You have no leg in this race.

[00:24:54] And for this man to basically take the stance of, you know, again, really in true life, I, it's not a joke. Men's rights now. And we, our voices need to be heard too. We get done wrong too. It's just not the place when talking about a marriage falling apart. No matter who's, there's not one person in fault for the marriage falling apart.

[00:25:24] It is two people get into a marriage. Two people, in whatever way possible, are responsible for the demise of that marriage. Listen, I'm going for a place of, I was married. I went through a divorce. Although I am the one who made that decision. And a lot of the decisions was based off of, you know, the circumstances that we were in,

[00:25:54] the circumstances that happened before he left, and all of that. And if you want to hear more on that story, you can head over to Patreon, where there will be an episode on that. And I think May, so next month actually. Um, so, soft luck. So, um, um, the, the history of my relationship with my ex-husband.

[00:26:18] But, anywho, the, whether they, what that heck has to, um, that I know in the, the bigger picture. And, um, I made the decisions based off the only thing he did. He is at fault for his actions. But I am also at fault for my part in the reason the relationship didn't work out. Or, you know, there is infidelity and all of that.

[00:26:46] We both have a, um, we both have faults in that. Because we entered into a marriage and then we exited out of the marriage. Whether you wanted to or not. You know, so it's, both parties are, are to quote-unquote blame.

[00:27:11] Anyway, um, then shoes are flying, y'all. Shoes are flying. Gino also then calls for a whore. So here's my thing with Gino. Gino only seems to, maybe Rob senses this, I don't know. But Gino only seems to mimic when Rob says something. Rob says, Matt's not it. Then Gino says, Matt's not it.

[00:27:41] Rob calls her a whore. Gino then calls her a whore. And it's like, maybe you're thinking these things, which I'm not gonna say you're not. But you only seem to have the guts when you have someone there who's also doing your dirty work. And that makes me have zero respect for Gino. They stay on her own two feet. You don't need Rob to do it for you. You wanna say no to Matt, then you say no to Matt.

[00:28:10] You should have said that from before. Rob should never have told you it's a no on Matt. I think it should be a no on Matt or whatever. You should be able to do that on your own. And you don't need Rob to, you know, be out here and telling her about herself. You can do that without Rob's help. Like that part for me is just, it's annoying. Because you just, it's pathetic in my honest opinion. So then Jasmine says, I am a whore.

[00:28:40] But like, you stuff your ass with butt plugs and sell them online. And I said, well, she's not wrong. She's spitting truth. Now, I have not seen the butt photos, but I know people have. She ain't lying. That's all I have to say.

[00:29:09] And the funny thing is, is when she says it, he's like, what is shit? You're the shit? What do you, what? How do you know that? Like, seriously. And when she says, and you're selling it on gay porn sites, which whatever. I mean, know your audience, right?

[00:29:34] And he's like, just, how do you know that? Like, seriously, his face drops when he hears this. He's just like, no, no, no. She's, she's lying. I don't know.

[00:30:02] So, and then she kind of says, like, say it to my face. Like, basically, like, calling her, I guess, names. And he's like, I just did. Now, that was a good comeback. That's the only thing I can give him. Anyways. And then he, okay. Say what you want about Matt. Say what you want about Jasmine. Say what you want. But the minute you start talking shit about someone's child, shame on you.

[00:30:31] Shame on you. Like, he refers to her unborn child at this time. A bastard child. You are having a bastard child. Now, I take huge offense to that. Because I would be, quote unquote, a bastard child.

[00:30:51] There are so many people that I know who have been technically bastard children. And, you know, my children potentially, you know, because I, I mean, my views on marriage is I'm not opposed to getting remarried. It's not like the first thing I have to do that I need to do or whatever.

[00:31:19] It's kind of like, it's always been in his hands when he decides he wants to ask. But, um, I don't need it. It's not necessarily something I need to have. So, potentially, my children could be bastard children. Like, to refer to someone as bastard children.

[00:31:38] And not only could that be triggering to Jasmine, but that can also be triggering to other people watching the show, knowing that they are, quote unquote, bastard children. Which is like, it's such a dated terminology, I feel. I feel like it's only a way to really stick it to somebody. But it's such a dated thing to say where it's like, who isn't in this day and age?

[00:32:06] And whether you are or you aren't, like, who gives a fuck? So, for this man to say this, it's just, I, I do have a statement that he posted. Now, I'm recording, I'm recording, like, this section, like, the next day. Okay, so some things have kind of come to my attention, um, since recording the, the first little bit, um, that I'm going to read at the end.

[00:32:34] But honestly, like, I feel like there's nothing this man can say. He is narcissistic. He is misogynistic. He is abusive. And he hates women. This is, you know, as, you know, lay down as it is. This man hates women. And I'm sorry about that. That's, that's, I do believe Sophie talks to a bullet.

[00:32:59] Um, yeah, because he's, he's, he's, yeah, no. Anyways. So, yeah, this is what she says, you know, you sell your ass on gay porn. I got the pictures. You want to see them? I got, where's my phone? My girl has the proof of the pictures.

[00:33:28] Then we have men's rights now conference at the tell-all away from everybody. And more name calling and referring to her child as a bastard child again. And calling her a whore and all of this. And you have Gina being like, thanks, brother. Thank you, brother, for having my back. Thank you so much. Shut the fuck up.

[00:33:49] These toxic, ball-less men need a freaking hobby. Okay? You literally have these toxic-ass men who think, I'm so tough. And it's just like, you are probably dealing with small dick energy. Okay? Your balls have not dropped. And you're all fucking narcissists.

[00:34:19] Honestly, God. There's really not one man in this group with the Men's Rights Now conference that isn't a narcissist. Florian is funny. I don't know if I necessarily would refer to him as narcissistic. I don't know if that necessarily applies to him. But, like, I want to say not as much.

[00:34:45] Just because, like, he is still being like, Gino, like, fuck your wife. Like, he's saying it. How's it difficult? Like, you know? Rob is a narcissist. Josh is a fucking narcissist. Gino is a narcissist. There's not one freaking person in this Men's Right Now situation who isn't. I mean, I think Brandon, was Brandon there? Like, then we're only seeing Benny on stage still.

[00:35:12] But I don't necessarily think Brandon is a narcissist either. Benny is. But Benny, in a way for him, I wouldn't even necessarily even say narcissist. Like, he's a selfish. But even he's like, listen, no thanks. Like, it's not cool. Anyways.

[00:35:38] Jasmine says, you know, everyone attacks me, but no one knows what I endured. And it's true. We really don't know when she endured. Gino isn't this precious baby who needs to be protected. He's not any of those things. He knew what he did. He's using sex to punish her, knowing that's kind of the only thing that he has left to do. And he knows, obviously, sex is important to her.

[00:36:07] So he, what does he do? He withholds it. And yeah, because, like, I don't, I don't know. It's, he sucks. Ralph says, I think she got pregnant on purpose. Because one can just get pregnant on purpose. But do you not know how pregnancy works?

[00:36:35] Especially someone who's a little older, who, you know, does talk, she did talk about she, you know, struggled to get pregnant and whatever. You know, one that's just get pregnant on purpose. Okay. You can, sure, purposely plan, you know, to get pregnant, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you will.

[00:36:57] And on what grounds, what grounds would she have had to get pregnant on purpose? Okay. Like, I'm curious. What are the grounds? Because for you to throw out an accusation like that, I want to know where you're getting that from. Because she's in an open relationship with a person for whom she was not supposed to have unprotected sex with.

[00:37:24] Don't tell me she, she didn't have, you know, unprotected sex. She did. Um, so whatever. But what was, I fully believe her when she says that the baby was unplanned. Um, things happen, you know? Anyway. Um, yeah, so he says, yeah, I think she got pregnant on purpose.

[00:37:49] And then he says, fuck Jasmine, fuck Matt, and fuck that baby. Honestly, this isn't, this is, this is, um, a real question I have. This isn't me being funny. Who really hurt you? That you have to talk about an unborn child in this way. Like, what, who really hurt you?

[00:38:19] Like, who did? I really want to know. Because whoever hurt you that badly needs to go up, um, Schitt's Creek and to the left head to hell, um, alongside with you. Because again, even if someone hurt him is probably, doesn't give you a right to act like this and talk like this about people and, you know.

[00:38:49] There is a special place in hell for people who go after children when they have, they didn't, this is her child did not ask for life. Life was given to her. She didn't ask for it. She didn't ask for it. She had no say in that. So for you to talk ill of a child, an innocent child, for what reason, I really want to know,

[00:39:18] is, there is a special place in hell for you. And I never want to see this man on my TV again. Bring Ed back. If I have to choose, I choose Ed. Because I think even Ed would not stoop to levels like this. Now, Ed will come for you. Ed will say shit about you.

[00:39:44] But I don't even think he would talk about someone's child and more child in that way. I think even he has morals and standards. Who knew? Oh, I won't rob off my screen. I never want to see him again. Um, then the quote unquote men, because really, are they men? No. Um, go back on set. And he calls her a hooker. See, Natalie, you know, you want a hooker? There's your hooker. No, wait.

[00:40:14] It wasn't Natalie who wanted a hooker. It was, it was Trish. Because Trish was calling her a hooker. See, if you're on a reference old 90 day, get it right. Anyways, um, Stacy is like, listen, like she's pregnant. Like, stop. And he's like, I don't give a fuck. You've made that pretty fucking clear.

[00:40:39] Because then what is going to happen is if you actually make her blood pressure rise and she goes into preeclampsia, you're not only risking, you're risking someone's life. So, and then it will be on you. Because if I was her family or anyone else who has a leg in the race, I would be suing your ass. I would be suing your ass. So, keep it up. Keep it the fuck up.

[00:41:07] Anyways, um, she throws yet another shoe. So another shoe is flying. And it does hit him. Um, this time, this actual, this man's actually trying to destroy her shoe. You know what this gave me? And, like, I'm not trying to make a, no, I'm trying to make a joke. I don't really care anymore. I'm not making a joke at the expense of the community or anything like that.

[00:41:32] But this, this vibe of trying to destroy her shoe gave me the vibe of the, the guy illegally born who's like, don't have your, whatever shoes on me, honey. That's what, that's what he gave me. He's like, give me a lighter. How do you know a lighter didn't work? Like, like, I have questions.

[00:41:57] So instead, because he can't destroy the shoe, because damn Jasmine, he throws it instead. I feel like some intern watches him throw this shoe. They're like, shit. Goddammit, now I gotta go over there and go find her fucking shoe. I don't get paid for this shit. I get paid in, in Amazon gift cards. Like, what is going on? And as for this, I would be so pissed.

[00:42:24] And according to the timeline, it's January in New York. So it's cold. Ugh, I'd be so pissed. Anyways, um, he explains about the whole situation of the gay porn sites, because he does, I have to clear that up. Like, we have to clear that up, okay? Because I'm not gay. Whether he is or he isn't, I don't care. That's not the issue I have. Um, I just hate him.

[00:42:52] So, he says, I posted, um, whatever it was, I guess his blog picture. And he says, my first 10k followers were all, um, were all men. And I don't know if they're gay men or whatever the hell, but they were men. And I said, okay, I'm just gonna throw it out there, though.

[00:43:19] I do not know if his pictures were posted to a gay site. But I'm just gonna throw it out there. I mean, again, straight men can stick shit out their butts. I don't, I'm not saying that. Um, you know, you're not necessarily gay because you stick something out your butt. Okay? This is where J's bodice is. It's fine.

[00:43:39] Um, put, no fun intended, but I do think that the, the audience for something like that would be other gay men. And again, there's nothing wrong with that. But just because you may be selling or putting post pictures up on gay sites or you potentially

[00:44:08] could be in gay porn or whatever, it doesn't necessarily mean you're gay or fully gay or whatever. Fully gay, that's the wrong thing to say. You can be queer in some way, absolutely. But you could also still be into women or maybe you're straight or whatever, you know? Like, it doesn't, it doesn't mean anything.

[00:44:32] So the fact that you're getting so defensive and needing to control the narrative on that makes me have pause. Now, do I think it's creative Jasmine to, like, put that shit out there? Who cares? Honestly, because everyone knows it's out there. A lot before Jasmine put it out there. I think Jasmine is trying to be like, you want to call me a whore, you want to such a

[00:44:59] me, you want to shame my decisions, yet you're no different than me in different ways, but you're no different than me. I think that's the point she's trying to make here. Um, I don't really care. So Jasmine says that there are, you know, these men, they claim to be so strong, yet you call me a whore. A hundred percent.

[00:45:25] Listen, I have never been called a bitch, a whore, a slut by any man that have claimed to love me, really love me, and respect me. Never. Hell, I don't even think I've really ever been called those things, maybe a bitch, but I don't think, like, even anything past that from men who didn't like or respect me.

[00:45:57] So, that I think says a lot on you. And for you to say you're a strong man, blah, blah, blah, and you're talking to women the way you're talking to them, it doesn't make you strong, it makes you weak, it makes you pathetic. And I totally understand what she's saying. A hundred percent. Because I agree with her.

[00:46:23] Um, so, Gina was like, you know, Rob, thanks, dude. Really, dude. I really thank you so much. Like, you, you, you, you're such a friend. Thank you so much. Thank you for the support, buddy. Get the hell out of here. So, anyway, we're gonna keep this going.

[00:46:51] And Jasmine, please keep your shoes on. They do get her shoe back. I guess I had the poor intern had to go get it. Um, but yeah. So, anyway, we're gonna move on to Julia and Brandon and give Gina and Jasmine a break here. So, we, um, we talk about, you know, helping her with getting her family to the States and kind of how that's been going.

[00:47:18] And, um, and basically it's going. And Sean is kind of like, Brandon, do you have a say in what's kind of going on? And he says, like, I'm trying to. Um, and then we kind of talk about, like, what about the second opinion? Since, like, that's happening. What about that? And he says, well, I feel like she's putting it off.

[00:47:47] She's putting more of the effort into getting her family here. Which I think, I kind of said this already. I think she, yes, she should be focusing on that as well. There's a lot involved in doing something like that. But I think, like, in the meantime, you can still look at your second opinion. I don't think one should cancel out to the other. Or one should be on pause and one shouldn't or whatever. Anyway, we're on Ron and Betty. For a cruise, y'all. Yeah.

[00:48:17] Maybe, maybe not a swinger cruise or what's going on here. But listen, we know shit. But anyways, we talk about the bar dancing situation. And then him calling her a whore. Because, again, these men can't help but call people whores. And the fact that she is still kind of waiting for an apology. So we kind of, you know, go through all that.

[00:48:46] And Sean's like, Ron, Betty, do you think Brandon should apologize? And I really do think Betty was going to say, like, I think, you know, he should. But instead, Ron kind of comes in here and he's like, well, I think she should reconsider how she acted. And, you know, maybe she should apologize to him. He not only called her a whore.

[00:49:13] He's also said, like, you're, you know, dancing like a slut or whatever it was. Like, so that's all okay. Like, I'm not saying, like, obviously this was an issue for him. He didn't like her doing this. I understand all of that. I'm not saying that his feelings are invalid. They are. But to kind of be like, oh, well, I think she should reconsider. And she should apologize to him or to each other.

[00:49:40] Rob is like, to her, to get, I fucking agree with. You can't do everything. There are limits. Which, of course, I think even if you're not married, there are limits. That's, I would never do something that makes my partner uncomfortable. There's just certain things that should be left to hit, you know, between the two of you. So I do understand that.

[00:50:11] And I agree with it. But I don't think there's anything wrong with her outfit. I thought she looked great. She looked hot. And she's feeling herself. Um, the dancing, dancing normally, not on the bar is whatever. Dancing on the bar is whatever. It was the, let me assume, doggy position. Then I'm like, ooh, I don't, I don't know.

[00:50:41] Like, would I do that even if I wasn't in a relationship? Probably not. Um, because I think more for me, it's, there are gross people out in this world who take advantage of women. And we should still be able to do whatever the fuck we want without worrying about men being stupid. But unfortunately, the world we live in, we just can't. And because men are stupid and men suck.

[00:51:11] So that is one thing. Like, now when you're in a relationship, he's there. Like, what's gonna happen? Um, nothing's gonna happen. But, um, I don't know. Like I said, I, I wouldn't have done it. Only because, like, I know, like, that would have most likely made my partner very uncomfortable. That's one thing. Like, dance. Be provocative. I don't care. But you, like me, I would have done that to my partner.

[00:51:41] That's what I would have done. And, you know, give a little response. But of course, Julia's not having sex with Brandon. So that's, at that point, so that's, that's, that's, that's one thing. Anyways. So, when Raph tells her that there are limits, she responds back to, what are limits? Oh, honey. There are limits. You're a married woman. There's always limits. And, but it's like, therein lies the problem.

[00:52:12] Josh is like, listen, she can have fun. You guys see no problem with that. So that's clearly, like, one perspective. I think it also depends on who you're with, right? And I think Brandon, unfortunately for her, is a person who is pretty conservative and, like, you know, and he just doesn't feel comfortable with certain things. And she should respect that.

[00:52:38] But at the same time, kind of keeping the same energy with other, with other couples, he also knew he was marrying. He was marrying a person who was a go-go dancer and he was pretty proud of it. And so, I think, like, partially you're like, well, you know, you married and you chose that. So, like, you can't then stifle her because it suits you. So, it's two-way street here.

[00:53:06] So, then Brandon's like, yeah, but her vagina was showing. No, it wasn't. And Sophie says, no, it wasn't. She was wearing nude colored underwear. She told me. Then Rob turns this on Sophie. And he's like, well, you feel it's because you're clothed that you're not going to show a vagina? Okay? Like, I've seen your vagina. And Sophie's like, what does that have to do with me? We're talking about them.

[00:53:36] And again, here's my thing. Here's my thing. Fellas. Again, I'm saying from the perspective of, I wouldn't do that because I respect not only my partner, but main thing I respect myself. But at the same time, if a woman wants to show her vagina, let her. It's her vagina to show. It is alone to you, sirs. You don't get to say, oh, well, I get to have sex with it, so you can't show that off to anybody.

[00:54:06] It's not your vagina. I can show it off to whoever, whenever. Okay? No. I'm not going to let the person touch it. But if I want to let a vagina lip come out, then I'm going to. If I'm going to let a boob pop out, I'm going to. Because guess what? It's my body. You don't. It's like, if you want to slip out a ball, go ahead for it. Just, you know, as long as people know they can't have it. But if someone slips out once in a while, like, it is what it is.

[00:54:35] It is my body to do with what I choose. You don't get to control the narrative all the fucking time. Anyway. Anyway, so Sophie then says, like, listen, I would get it if, you know, there was men there, you know, taking advantage of the show or whatever. But, like, he was there. Like, what's going to, again, seriously, what is going to happen?

[00:55:01] Then Julia gets up and starts dancing on top of the table because she wants to show Betty and Ron. And I'm just like, I think we all saw the video. You didn't need to then get up on a table because what are you doing? They're not in the studio. They're on the cruise. So what is the point of getting on this table and dancing for Ron and Betty? I'm confused.

[00:55:32] I think any way for her to, to, Julia is a shit-disserver. And it's fun for viewership. For Ron and I can understand being like, Jesus Christ. But at the same time, like I said already, you know who we married. Anywho's. So Jasmine is like, listen, calling her a whore is a strong word. Maybe you should apologize.

[00:56:03] And he says, okay, I am sorry. I was angry. Like, you know, he makes it, it's literally, I was sorry, but listen to how it affected me. That is not apologizing. And Jasmine says as much as she's like, nope, start over. That's not an apology. And then Betty, Betty, who has to protect her sweet baby boy, is just like, you know what? As his mother, because I'm your mother.

[00:56:32] As his mother. He, he, he's sorry. The fuck you say no? You can't apologize for your grown-ass son who's married. No, you don't get to accept or do an apology for him. Jesus Christ. Anyways, I mean, he does apologize. Anyways. But then we start talking about her kissing this ex-boyfriend or, well, the ex-boyfriend

[00:57:02] and then this other guy that was brought up during, between the sheets. And they're like, so Julia, what did happen with that guy? Okay, then Sean asked this question. What happened with that guy? And that's where we end this tell-all part one. That is it for me. So yes, we will be jumping in with the, um, the second part very soon.

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