B90- S7 E21 "Tell All Part 2"

[00:00:11] Welcome to Reality Tea Times Two, the podcast where we discuss all the trash reality TV we love to hate. I'm Tanyka, and today we are going to be discussing the second part of the B90-Tal Hall. But before we do, we're going to be hopping into some hot costs.

[00:00:33] So, this is Plathville-related. Of course, I don't cover the show, but I do watch along with everybody else. So, Ethan Plath is starting off, well, we're at the end of January now, but he's starting off his new year with a new woman.

[00:00:54] So, Ethan Plath took to Instagram to formally introduce to his followers his new girlfriend nearly a year after filing for divorce from Olivia Plath. So, he said, quote, in his trigger warning for Nasty, proud to introduce my sweet girlfriend. Sweet, he said.

[00:01:20] He said, truly, she is one of the sweetest, kindest, and patient people I've ever known. Looking forward to the next year and what it has to bring. Wishing everyone a happy new year. Here we go, 2025. So, I do have a picture of her. I will post her. So, even though we know what she looks like, he didn't share her name or any additional details, but clearly the pair have been spending a lot of time together.

[00:01:48] In the pics, Ethan and his blonde-haired, blue-eyed lady cozy up for romantic and silly moments. The reality star snapped a funny, candid montage of his girlfriend searching the car before realizing she was being photographed and breaking into a smile. The couple clearly love their selfies, snapping lots of photos together cheek-to-cheek. They also post alongside a vintage yellow convertible in one shot.

[00:02:18] So, great. But that's it for that, for that piece. Next, Mary Brown has taken out a third loan on her Parowan bed and breakfast. Lizzie Heritage Inn. In Touch has confirmed this via the deed of trust. The U.S. Sun was first to report on Mary's latest loan, which was dated December 23, 2024. Quote, Quote,

[00:02:46] The note evidences the legal obligation of each borrower who signed the note to pay a lender $485,000 plus interest. The document read, However, the reality star has plenty of time to pay that loan back in full. Quote, Each borrower who signed the note has promised to pay this debt in regular monthly payments and to pay the debt in full no later than January 1, 2025.

[00:03:18] So, she has like 30 years to do it. Mary took out her latest loan through mortgage lender company, Nures LLC. According to the documents, she's listed as the sole borrower. Mary, as we know, purchased the home and took out the original mortgage for $346,500 in October 2017. She took out a second home rider for $308,000 in April 2018.

[00:03:49] At the same time, Mary was still living in Flagstaff, as we know, and was still in plural marriage with everybody. So, on the season 12 premiere back in 2019, Mary asked the group for $40,000 for the loan to purchase the bed and breakfast, as we know, which didn't happen. She bought it on her own. And she said, Quote,

[00:04:17] I knew that the funds were not there. I just felt like, well, I'm just going to have to do it then. So, that's why I got up and I left and started working because I knew that I needed to figure it out because it was something important to me. And this is what she told US Weekly at that time. She began working. Oh, fuck. She began working as a LuLaRoe retailer in 2016. Yike.

[00:04:41] Mary told fans in an August 28, 2024 Instagram post on Lizzie's Heritage Inn's Instagram page that it was time to say goodbye, if only for a moment. Saying, quote,

[00:05:24] Quote, Although the site says the inn is no longer taking reservations. But for now, enjoy these photos of what was and look forward with me to what will be. I've got some fun and exciting things planned for these spaces. The next little while will be filled with fun and anticipation. And I'm excited for what's to come. Mary added about the renovations. So, great. Wish her the best with that.

[00:05:53] And the last piece of hot goss. This is blow deck related. So, months after feeling wrapped in Bifa, both Danny and Deanna appeared on the January 6th episode of Watch What Happens Live with Andy Coleman. There, they were asked if they would work with Daisy again in the future. Deanna said no immediately, which you can check out in that clip if you so choose.

[00:06:20] Danny, meanwhile, had a bit of a different answer, which she does say at the finale of the show, which you'll get that soon. Quote, she says, if I had to, a job is a job. Yeah, for me, a job is a job. I really don't care. Like, I know how to deal with it, so it's all good. Do you, though? Host Annie Coleman then asks Deanna to explain why she wouldn't want to work with Daisy again in the future. She says, quote, she's all over the place.

[00:06:49] I'm sorry, but it's the truth. She's unfocused. She's always on her phone, basically. And for me, my piece is just way more important than that. Okay, whatever. Um, I don't care about these people. But anyways, that is basically it for Hawka's. Um, let's, let's jump into the reason that we are here.

[00:07:14] B-90, season 7, episode 21, tell all part 2. So we start off where we left off with, I will break your face. Okay. Um, so let's just go back to Matilda and Niles before we have any situations. So let's talk about the masking for Niles and kind of what that means. So he kind of, and lying, really.

[00:07:40] And he kind of explains again, as we kind of know, it's all about the social skills. Because with the social skills, he doesn't always know what to say, how to say it. You know, we, we kind of been through this. We don't have to rehash that. Um, but Sean kind of says, okay, but I'm just trying to understand though, where we go from I'm coming down there to get to know you versus let's get married kind of thing, you know?

[00:08:08] So, and Brian, I think comes out kind of with the truth here, because I kind of agree with him. God, Brian thinks that he just avoids conflicts, which, yes. But Niles also admits, which was actually really interesting. I don't think we knew this before. But he says, it is actually me who brought up marriage. But what he didn't realize, I think he's kind of talking about saying, oh, I'm going to marry you one day, or whatever, you know?

[00:08:37] Because stuff that we all talk about at some point, and what he didn't realize is maybe in her culture, he kind of talked about marriage as pretty much being done immediately kind of thing. That part he just didn't realize. But I think also just a simple conversation would have been better, but I don't know. So, then we start talking about Mastark and all of his opinions that he's had.

[00:09:06] And he is here remotely, and Niles is like, hi, Dad. And he's like, you know, how are you doing? And they do kind of, or Sean kind of asks, like, how did his parents feel about Mastark taking on the role of parent? And apparently his parents do know that this happened, and that they also didn't like that Mastark did. Like, how could you do that to me?

[00:09:34] Well, how could you do to your son that you can't accept his happiness? Like, it goes both ways, you know? Mastark does think that Niles did not keep his promise in terms of Matilda being out in the States in five months. The problem is, is that Niles had no business saying when she would be there. Because it's not up to him, unfortunately. All he can do is do the paperwork, and then he goes from there. It could take five months, which is rare.

[00:10:04] It could take a year. It could take two years. Like, you can't. I don't know why he said that. I think he would have been better off saying, I'm going to do it as fast as I possibly can. But U.S. immigration runs at its own speed. I can't control it. Instead of making that promise, I want to say they should have a little more common sense. But I think, like, if you don't understand, you don't understand. It could take a while. That things won't just happen.

[00:10:35] I don't know. So Sean says, okay, but you do still need $4,000 U.S. dollars in order to get it all done. And how long do you think that's going to take to get that done? He says, well, I have my job. You know, I pay the bills. But, like, it's going to take time. You know, he doesn't really have an answer. But Matilda says, you know, I would really rather he come and visit.

[00:11:04] And it's been 10 months. And if that even means delaying the process or it's going to delay the process in order for him to travel, like, I'm assigned with that. So I think that that's something that they do need to talk about because clearly they're not on the same page. Lauren is like, honestly, I think you should wait for her to come. And then you both can go down to Ghana together.

[00:11:30] And on and on, he just, like, um, or sorry, let me back up. Sean basically asks, I don't know why she did, but I know why she did. He says, like, what do you think? And he says, really? I wish you both the best. But, like, you don't respect my marriage. So I cannot respect you. Just be nice. And I'll be nice. He's like, your father is here. Be nice.

[00:12:01] Anyways, moving on from that because I don't know, or Niles is not going to be dealing with this shit right now. But I'm not, unfortunately, does not take the hint. He's like, do you support my relationship? And Niles is not even answering him. Do you like my relationship? Niles doesn't answer him. Do you like my family? Niles doesn't answer him. He keeps getting fuming. You can see. If smoke could come out of his ears, I would've.

[00:12:31] Do you support us? And, again, Niles is saying nothing. Matilda, on the other hand, is kind of saying, Niles, just calm down, calm down. And Niles says, I'm talking to you. Answer to me. Fuck you. Fuck you. I don't have to answer you because you think I'm going to take the bait. Niles kind of did take the bait. He's like, you like us?

[00:12:55] Are you, you know, willing to, you know, or do you like us or do you wish bad on us? Here's my question. Why do you care? And, again, this is just the thing that I talked about in the last episode. His age is showing because you would care more about that kind of shit at that age. As time goes on, I don't care what you think. You're not living my life. You're not in my relationship. You're not in any, I don't care.

[00:13:24] But for whatever reason, he cares. And at this point, Niles is kind of like, get him out of my face. Get him out of my face. He doesn't want to deal with any of us. It's rude. Unnest, rude. And Matilda's kind of saying to him, calm down, calm down. Like, don't let this idiot get to you kind of thing. He's like, I'm trying to calm down.

[00:13:53] Then, Unnest starts laughing. And he's like, I just need to take a step away. I need to get out of this. Because he just doesn't, he doesn't want to punch Unnest in the face. Especially while Mr. Ark is here. And Unnest is like, Unnest is always trouble. I want to be nice. But no one likes me. Why doesn't anyone like me?

[00:14:20] And Matilda really comes at him in such a mature way. And she's like, Unnest. And he's like, yeah. And she's like, I don't like the way you talk to my husband. And Brian says, listen. Everyone here, I'm sure if we were to all ask each other whether or not we like your relationship, we're all going to say yes. We all support your relationship. Like, it doesn't matter what we think anyways. Anyways, you should just kind of let it go at this point. Just move on.

[00:14:49] And Unnest's like, yeah. You're right. I should just let it go, right? Have fun, right? Hello, uncle. Hello. And Lauren's like, it's Mr. Ark. Hello, Mr. Ark. Hello, Mr. Ark. I like what you're like. Your outfit. I really like it. I'm an illustration. And then whatever the other thing says. And Lauren's just, I'm sorry. Mr. Ark is like, okay. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Sit down. Sit down. You know what's been able to say? Sit down and shut up. Like, you.

[00:15:20] Anyway. So then Sean says, you know, Mr. Ark, you know, you just saw Miles walk out. You know. What do I got to say about that? And Mr. Ark basically says, like, I don't like the behavior. Clearly he's talking about the behavior of on and on. But I was not expecting Miles to just walk away. He doesn't like it.

[00:15:51] While we wait for Miles, they're going to kind of talk about a viewer comment directed at Mr. Ark. Like, basically saying, you know, he kind of forced Miles into marrying Matilda. But he explains, as he's explained before, you know, the knocking, it's nothing. Okay? And I just explained that to him and he went on accordingly.

[00:16:15] I don't understand why in this moment, though, Vanya has to say, well, it really did look like you were kind of, you know, forcing him to get married. Or kind of saying, like, you know, get married or else or whatever. It's the culture. And I don't know why we're debating this at this point. He's married. He made the decision. It is what it is.

[00:16:42] And he, what Lauren says, like, he could have said no. Exactly. He, I think, we have, okay, we can't wear, or be like, baby him or something and be like, oh, you know, this was too much. No. He knew what he was doing. He made his choice. And he's being perfectly fine with his choice. And Joey says, like, I think he was worried about the money.

[00:17:11] And I do think that was part of the problem. He definitely mentioned that prior to going to Ghana. But again, Vanya says, like, he didn't talk about the money while still here in America. That's not true. He definitely talked about the money, saying this is why he had to work as a skip driver or Uber driver as well. So, no, he definitely talked about the money. But then Niles comes back.

[00:17:38] He does immediately apologize for leaving. But Mr. Ark says, you better not do that again. You know, you better apologize to everyone. Not just me, but last everybody. And he does again. And I really hated this because I'm like, Niles did the right thing for him to walk away. He, you can tell him all you want. You shouldn't do that. You shouldn't do that. But his brain processes are what they are.

[00:18:08] And he's going to go accordingly as he sees fit. And to basically berate him in this moment for doing the right thing really bothered me. But anyways, he apologizes. It's fine. Anand basically says, I accept your apology. Like he, you know. But you are my feelings.

[00:18:38] Because I'm a child. I'm a man baby. And Niles, like, very calmly says to him, but this is not the time. You had your time. This is not the time. But then what else is? And Lauren kind of says it too. What else is the right time? We're all here now.

[00:19:03] While we are talking about Niles and Matilda on stage is not the time. What we have to remember here is Adonai knew what he was doing. He waited until the right moment and the right moment was when Mr. R came on and went into his bullshit. He did that on purpose. So, anyway. Matilda is getting really emotional. She's kind of crying.

[00:19:32] And she explains that the reason she's crying is because the way Adonai is talking to Niles. And I think kind of at this point he kind of backs off a little bit. But, yeah. So, Niles has paid back all of the money back to Mr. Arc. So that debt is fully paid. Um, and, um, we're going to take a break. I think we talked about everything we can talk about with Matilda and Niles. We're going to take a break.

[00:20:01] And that's what we're doing now. So. Um. Tiger Lily, to the camera, says, right, guys? Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. I, like, don't need to defend my husband. No, because, like, Niles is a sugar daddy. And that's what my husband was saying. I think he's right. And, like, I don't think that he said anything wrong. He's, like, a chihuahua. Okay?

[00:20:31] And he tries to have, like, this Wattwiler, like, persona. But, like, it doesn't work. And then she says to Anon, Matilda just wants his money. And, like, his, like, little job there isn't going to do it for her. She needs, like, something with more of an income. I just mean, like, it's not fine for her.

[00:21:02] What are you talking about? Where did y'all get that Matilda is a sugar baby and he needs to have all of this money? Like, where did you get that? Because I miss that. Because I don't know where you got that. Like, she says nothing. And clearly she's also not retaining anything. So anyways.

[00:21:30] Then Fania does the girlfriend test with Lauren. And he says, like, some of the questions are very philosophical and whatever. And one of the questions that is asked here is if you've ever drowned. Well, if I did, I wouldn't be here. He's like, well, no, see, that's not true because I've actually drowned eight times and I'm still here. Wait, what? So wait, so wait, so wait.

[00:21:56] You drowned eight times and you've lived to tell the tale. Listen, that's not drowning. That's just not being able to get back to the surface. Here's the thing. I've been in a situation. I don't know if I talked about this on the podcast. I feel like I did. But just a short warning for if anyone's dealt with something like this before dealing with plies of water. And yeah.

[00:22:24] My grandparents' friends owned a cottage, went to as a kid. And one of the times that we went was maybe seven, eight. And they went off of the water. And I'm in the water with this floaty crocodile thing.

[00:22:49] And I, for whatever reason, something, I was kind of close to the dock. And close to the dock, there was these rocks that were flushed with the land. And so I hit my knee on the rock, flipped over because the crocodile had no air in it.

[00:23:18] And I couldn't get back up. I think I actually hit my leg on the rock while underwater. I can't quite remember. It's very blurry. But I couldn't get back up. Now, luckily, there was a few adults there. And someone did come and save me. But I wouldn't consider it drowning. Now, was I panicking? Did I think I'm dying?

[00:23:47] This is it, I'm dying. Yes, I did. It was actually a very terrifying and scary moment. But I wanted to consider it drowning because I feel like drowning is like, well, the actual act of dying underwater. So how does one drown eight times and then still live to tell the tale? I have questions that he is not going to be able to answer anyway.

[00:24:16] Anyway, so that's what he says. Niles basically says, were you ever dropped on your head? Is actually, yes, my aunt actually dropped me on my head in an escalator when I was less than a year old. That says everything. Anyways, you go back on stage and guess what? Bozo's back from his little meeting with vampires at 10 o'clock at night.

[00:24:44] And he's like, Julia Roberts would be so proud of Runaway Pride or the fuck he said. Runaway Bozo. And I'm just like, what is one of these movies that he keeps referencing? I mean, yes, great movie. He loved Julia Roberts. But like, what is going on? Because he's not okay. Anyway, let's move on to Joe and Magda. So they're still together.

[00:25:11] She did go to the States and meet his family and his friends. And we do see some pictures. She says she didn't meet all of his friends. At least she thinks she does. She did. And she says, they really like me. I really like them. Especially Stephanie and Rob. They apparently talk all the time. And Sean asks, like, so are you guys engaged? And the answer is no. They are not engaged. And Sean asks, like, why not? Welcome to Night A Beyonce where people get engaged.

[00:25:42] And Joey says, like, I wanted her to not expect it. You know, she kept asking, when am I going to do it? Am I going to do it? It would be constant at least once a week. And he said, like, it just felt like it would have been like a business transaction. Instead of actually an emotional thing. So for that reason, he wanted to wait. And I think that makes sense. Because again, like, if you are going to constantly ask someone, what are you going to propose? What are you going to propose?

[00:26:11] Like, is this going to be the person not wanting to propose? But he does say, I have no doubts. I'm just kind of waiting for the right time. But Brian does ask, like, okay, but like, how long is she willing to wait? Which is a good question. And she says, like, I don't know. Well, anyway. This is when someone asks, like, how many times did she ask?

[00:26:38] And then Magda, you got a ring and you put it on your ring finger. Explain that. So she explains that a friend of hers actually bought her this ring. That she just decided to put on her ring finger in order for men to know she's in a relationship. So that they wouldn't bother her. Which I can maybe understand, but it's still kind of crazy.

[00:27:08] And she, apparently, because everyone's like, well, that's kind of crazy. Like, wouldn't you have talked to him about that before doing it and whatever? And she says, well, wait, I did talk to him about that. Like, I told him I was going to do it. And I'm like, oh, we, oh. But he says, I don't remember that. I'm going to say there's a possibility that it did happen, but he didn't remember it happened.

[00:27:35] And, but maybe there's also a possibility she didn't tell him because maybe she knew how crazy he would have sounded. I don't know. So, Sean then asks the question to everybody, does anyone think that she's pushing this relationship? And Brian's like, well, the engagement, maybe. You know? Which I, hmm, hate to say.

[00:28:04] I agree with him. I agree with him fully. That, yeah, she's pushing the engagement aspect of this. And I disagree with Vanya. Because Vanya's like, well, she, she loves him and she wants to be here. She's just kind of making it known and whatever. And it's like, okay, um, she's 23 years old. What the fuck's the rush?

[00:28:33] Yes, she may love him and everything like that. So does many other people in the same situation. Still doesn't mean that you need to constantly ask the man, when are you reposing to me? It comes across as desperate. And, I mean, I love Vanya. I think she's great. But just seeing Han, kind of how her story kind of went, I think that's why she can closely understand her. And again, they're both European.

[00:28:59] So, I mean, maybe that's part of it, but it's just, hmm, I don't know. It's just, I don't agree with Vanya, like, at all. Anyway, so, then we start talking about him forgetting his passport. And we're going to go back to get the passport. Turns out, y'all, that that actually wasn't the real reason. Or he ends up messing up about the actual reason for having to go back, this idiot. Right.

[00:29:29] So, we got a number before scene clip where he says, I actually didn't forget my passport. So then why the fuck did V go back and then have to rush to make sure you got your fucking flight? Turns out he went back because he forgot shooters that he left in the fridge. He does like 12 bucks for alcohol on the plane, so he didn't want to pay 12 bucks for alcohol. Wait. What?

[00:29:59] That's insane. And Vanya says, like, that's insane. And he says, well, why? What? You can't be serious. Sir, you really, truly can't be serious. You, you, there's a reason why you said I forgot my passport versus saying I forgot alcohol in the fridge. Because you knew if you said you forgot the alcohol in the fridge, you're not going to go back for it.

[00:30:27] Because that's ridiculously stupid. Instead, you know they would go back for your passport because obviously you need that to travel. So it's just like, what? And it's like, Vanya has to spell it out for him and say, like, what would you have done if you missed your flight? How would you have explained that to Magda if you missed the flight because of fever and alcohol?

[00:30:56] But she also says nothing much about it because at the end of the day, he did make the flight. But it's just like, this is ridiculous. Yes. Anyway, they would talk about pooping in front of each other, which I don't even know why this became a fucking thing. But Tiger Lily, when they kind of go to her and ask her, well, do you believe in an open door policy? She says, well, I mean, I'm like, kind of with a notion of women don't do number two. Okay.

[00:31:28] Anyway, we're taking a break now from them. We're going to come back to them later. We're going on an official break at this point. So, yeah. Vanya and Tiger Lily are talking, talking about Jordan. You know, what was I like? What did I like having a controlling husband? Again, after your last controlling husband. And then Adnan kind of comes over and he's like, what are you guys talking about? And he's like, Vanya, let me get you a husband. I got many brothers.

[00:31:57] And she says, like, I couldn't cover up like how Tiger Lily does. Like, I like to be free. I like to show up my boobies. I like to show up my legs. Like, I'm happy. And he's like, yeah. That sparkly thing. Like, look at me. Look at me. But Tiger Lily does kind of handle this a little better. She says, whatever makes you happy though, right? Exactly. So, at this point, she says to him, I gotta go upstairs for whatever reason. He's like, okay.

[00:32:27] And Vanya is like, well, I mean, I'm on you to stay here and talk to me. And he's like, no. Like, why do I need to do that? But Tiger Lily does say, he actually can't stay here and talk to you because our rules are he can't talk to the opposite sex alone. And Vanya kind of makes it about, I don't like when men control me. Men don't control me. But they're kind of doing it to each other. They seem perfectly content with their lives.

[00:32:57] As is beating this dead horse of, he's controlling, no man's going to control me and all of this. Yes, that maybe works for me too. But they're happy. So, it is what it is. Anyway, it becomes a whole thing because when we go back just on stage. Shauna asks, so I heard something happen between you and Anna and Vanya. I was like, what happened there?

[00:33:25] And she says, like, I just felt like he just couldn't talk to me. Or that he didn't want to talk to me. Like, he's, because I'm a woman, he doesn't want to talk to me. Me and my small mind. But Tiger Lily explains again. She says, no, it's like, I'm actually not about, like, what you're wearing. Or, like, how you are. Or anything like that. It's because, like, in order for him to respect our marriage, he's not allowed to talk to anyone of the opposite sex. Just like, I'm not allowed to talk to anyone of the opposite sex.

[00:33:55] And I'm just like, like, again, why would I be this dead horse? We know this already. Leave it alone. Anyway. Hi, everyone. So I have a song for you. This song is by Sky Canyon. And the song is called Subtle Approach. I did get this song from the Podsafe Music Directory on the World Podcast Network.

[00:34:23] So I'm going to play that song for you now. If you like the song, I will have a link down in the show notes to everywhere where you can listen to the song and download the song, including the link to the song on the World Podcast Network. And I'm going to play that song for you now.

[00:34:46] Moving on from that, we are talking about Vea and Sunny.

[00:41:14] So she says, I came back to America. And then, you know, we were struggling a little bit. And they actually broke up. So they're not together. So they're not together. So they're going to work. He said they talked a little bit here and there. And then he found out that she actually was seeing someone. And she's like, well, yes, I did do that.

[00:41:43] But like, let me clarify. It did go on a date with a guy just once. No kissing. No nothing happened. We kind of went to Disney and that was that. I never lied about it. I did tell him that I was going on this date with somebody. But then he went on to my Snapchat, saw the photos from the date, went off, which is in true Sunny fashion. I don't, I believe her.

[00:42:13] And that's when, you know, she had hit the fan. And he says like, I'm a jealous guy, blah, blah, blah, and whatever. He said it didn't make me upset. And, I mean, yeah. Yeah. So Sean basically asked like, who is the guy? Like, who is this guy you're on a date with? And Faye's like, yeah, see, that's the thing that makes him so upset.

[00:42:41] And I swear to God, I'm like, oh my God, she went on a date with Rory. She went on a date with Rory. No. She actually went on a date with the guy who babysat her dog, who we saw for two seconds in the beginning of the season. And what the f- Wow. Um, okay.

[00:43:06] Um, she does say, this was a while ago though. We talked it all out. We're back together. Everything's fine. She said they had only been broken up for about a month. During that month, I mean, my girl moved quick. She went on a date with Dog Rocker. So, or Dog Babies, whatever. Whatever. So, Amnon is like, so, like, what's wrong with you, Sunny? What's wrong with you? Be controlling.

[00:43:35] Be like Amnon. Be controlling. Say that again. I thought you weren't controlling, Amnon. Like, I'm confused. Now, be controlling like Amnon. You just said the liar part out loud. What? He just like, threw it out there. Amnon is like, did he hear himself when those words were coming out of his mouth? Or did he just word vomit everywhere? It was amazing.

[00:44:01] Anyways, Sunny, when I thought this was really great of him to say, he says, like, if I wanted to ruin my relationship, then sure that I would do what you do. But I don't want to do that. But, um, so, Sean, then we did not have this conversation about whether or not women and men can be friends. Was Harry right the whole time that women can't be friends?

[00:44:30] We were all over the place with our answers. I don't really care. But, um, she says, she has a clear voice that I did not cheat on him. I did not do that. Like, that did not happen. Um, but anyways, next steps. Sunny, apparently his visa for in South Africa is going to be expiring soon. So he's going to be going back to Bangladesh in about a month or two to await the visa to the States.

[00:44:59] And, um, she's apparently going to go out there to visit him as well. So that's the plan. So then Anan raises his hand and like, yes, Anan, like he's in school or something. And he's like, I have a question. Hey, Sunny, I see you're doing the horizontal dance, um, before marriage, which you're not

[00:45:23] supposed to do as we know, but like if, if you don't want to be, or sorry, Vega says, but if you don't want to be like a strict Muslim, then you don't need to be a strict Muslim. And Anan all of a sudden just says, what the fuck, what the fuck is that coming out of your mouth? Whoa. Oh, he just goes off on her.

[00:45:51] You're like, this is the most worst thing in Allah. Well, again, it's not just in the Muslim faith. No faith allows us to have premarital sex yet. Here we go. You know, and he's going to get very judgmental here and I'm going to have my thoughts, of course. But, um, yeah, so he said this was the worst thing in Allah. You don't do this. It's very easy. You just don't have sex. You just don't do it. There is no chance in hell that this man was a virgin when he met her. I'm sorry.

[00:46:19] It's just, there's just no way. There's just no way. Pot to meet a cuddle. But anyways, um, he, yeah, so he says, this is easy. It's fine. And he, uh, or he says, it kind of gets brushed on the breath very quickly, but it does get brought back up. He just say, if you're a theist, say you're a theist. But he was directing that at Theia, but it wasn't caught.

[00:46:47] But then he says, listen, I do religion for myself as we all should. We should all do religion for ourselves. It's not necessarily about picking and choosing. It's just, we do it and fulfill myself. And Anand said, how do you change that a lot of religion? And he's like, let me finish speaking and stop fucking interrupting me. But he says, I do, I don't do religion for other people. I do it for me.

[00:47:18] And Anand's like, that's not a religion. That's not religion. But it is religion. Again, we have them all and all as of Anand. If he was a Christian, he would be like those Christian people who, you know, he'd be like, what's his face from, uh, um, that, that, uh, religion show that we were talking about before, I don't know what it's called, with the guy who spoke in tongue. Um, uh, yeah.

[00:47:45] So, I'm gonna annoy you. I'm gonna annoy you. That guy. So, if I thought, mom, that would be, that would be, he'd be, he'd be him. So, it's just like, stop being judgmental though. You do your religion for you the way you see fit. And Sonny can do the way he sees fit.

[00:48:14] And he is gonna say later on that, you know, doing anything outside of, that's haram, you don't do. You're not Muslim then. But I'm gonna say this again. I have had relations with Islamic men before in my past. Trust me, we're following it. Okay? If you catch my drift. But that doesn't mean that person's any less Muslim because of it.

[00:48:41] We've had people on this show too, who weren't strict with it. Okay? Like, we had Muhammad, we, the first Muhammad. We had, um, we had, um, oh, she wasn't even coming to me right now. Um, Siyad. We had him too. He was having barital sex before, you know?

[00:49:08] We've had many people on this show of the Islamic faith just, okay? Okay? And again, it doesn't make you any better because you waited till marriage. You married a woman that you only knew for four months over the computer, okay? In order to not break your vow to God to not have sex before marriage. And you fulfilled that.

[00:49:38] So you're not going to get some kind of prize because you waited until marriage. You married a woman after knowing her for four or five, I don't even know how long, very small amount of time. Married her for the mere reason because you wanted to have sex with her or just sex in general. So you don't get a prize any more than anyone else does. The difference is they're being real about it. I have sex, yes.

[00:50:08] Without, you know, premarital sex. Yes, I do. And I know I do. And I deal with that with my God. I deal with it. And I'm perfectly fine with where I am at in my life and where I'll be at in my afterlife. At least I can own it. You, sir, need to own the fact that you married Tiger Lily for the mere reason so you could fuck. Stop acting like you are holier than thou because you're not. I don't like it.

[00:50:41] Anyway, so, so yeah, he, he just kind of going to that is like, I didn't touch Tiger Lily until marriage. Um, and yeah, he says, yeah, Muslim, if you break this. And he also then kind of goes into it and says, you can't get married when she believes in nothing. But they, again, they're not quite understanding because I, I think he thinks she's atheist. But someone says, okay, but what about Tiger Lily?

[00:51:11] Like she doesn't believe in Islam. And he's like, well, she's a Christian. She believes in Jesus. Okay. Okay. Yes, that is very true. We know this and we know it's fine for people. As long as you're not atheist, you're usually pretty good to marry an Islamic man without converting. And I think Tiger Lily kind of catches on here and realizes, oh wait, she's actually not an atheist.

[00:51:41] She is a Christian. And she says, oh, we actually thought that she was atheist. And then Faye's like, no, no, no, no, no, bitch. No, no, no, bitch. You're not going to go out here and tell me that I don't fucking believe in Jesus. Don't tell me that I don't fucking believe in Jesus. Listen, didn't realize fucking in Jesus was going to be in the same sentence. Actually, like right after each other. Shit. That's like going into the church and starts right.

[00:52:11] It's sacrilegious. Anyways, um, no, bitch. And, um, and then he's like, so then they got, why do you sex? Because again, I think he gets that in Christianity. You're also not supposed to have pre-brown sex. Whatever. Start those fires. I'll burn it. It's fine. It was worth it. Boom. Um, anyway, yeah, he says like that. And he's like, I don't need anyone to understand.

[00:52:41] Or she says, I don't need anyone to understand my relationship. We all do our own thing and we respect that. And, and then someone says, or I think, um, I think what's going on here says, do you want Faye to be Muslim? Um, I think that she's always tired of the way she asks this question. And he says, yes, in the future, but right now, no. Like, I'm not going to force that on her. She doesn't want to do it. Um, and I want to teach her. I want her to understand the religion. And maybe one day she can convert.

[00:53:10] And Faye's like, um, what? She's like, I don't want to convert. I have no intentions of converting. And he's like, but you have no idea. But my religion doesn't matter. She doesn't need to understand about the religion. She's made a choice. She does not want to convert. And you need to respect it.

[00:53:39] And, and, and, I think it was Faye Zadon says, like, does she understand that your kids need to be Muslim? And she speaks for herself and says, the only thing I hope for my children is that they have religion in their life. Whatever that religion is, I don't think she cares.

[00:53:59] But then Vanya comes in and she says to Sunny, like, do you, would you convert for her if she wanted you to? And he says, no, because I'm happy with my religion. And she says, well, then why isn't it okay for her to be happy with hers? Like, why does she need to convert for you?

[00:54:24] And he simply says with his whole fucking chest, because I'm a man here. What? And Alain actually is laughing. And I think he's laughing because he kind of like, there he is. There he is trying to be controlling and he's not taking it seriously. I don't think he's laughing because of what he said because I think he agrees. But that's not a reason. Because you have a dick and balls does not mean you are in charge of what the religion

[00:54:54] is going to be for everyone in the relationship. This is not how this works. So, Tiger Lily, I think the one thing, finally, she says here that's constructive, says she should not be converting for Sunny. She has to do it for him or for her. And she says that, you know, you've got to be making sure that you're doing it for the right reasons.

[00:55:24] And she says, like, Anand never forced me into converting or forced Islam on me. Any decision she makes, it'd be for herself, not for him. So then we start talking about his father. Does he talk to his father at all?

[00:55:46] He says that they do speak if it's about business, but they do not have, like, a deep relationship. And he does say it's not, like, customary in Islam for a parent to disown their child. But, you know, in time, I think he's saying, like, he'll come around. Which always says, you've got to try to just veil. You've got to try to respect his father. Or he's Muslim. He's also of an older generation.

[00:56:16] So if you've got to cover up your fucking tattoos and cover up your tattoos. And she does say that, I wish I did, you know, cover them, you know, fully and whatnot. But right now, Sunny says, um, you know, love does make you blind. And he's answered the old age question of, is love blind? And he said it is. Anna then says, you're a father. You know, I feel bad for him.

[00:56:46] Because he's actually doing the religion right. And you're doing it wrong. Um, you know, all your religion was going to be is about cheating and all this. And she's like, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Did you just say cheating? Who's cheating on who? I didn't cheat on Sunny. Honey, we were broken up. We were on a break. I don't understand. And Tiger Lily says, honey, honey. Okay, listen, listen to my words. They were like on a break.

[00:57:14] And that's when she went on a date with, um, babysitter man. So like, she actually didn't cheat on him. And he says, I don't trust her. Anyways, we move on from that. And we start talking about Brian and Ingrid. And, um, the question basically comes up, Brian, do you still, you know, believe that she didn't really try? And he says, well, she did.

[00:57:42] But like, I don't think she was ready for everything. Everything meaning his wheelchair. And he said that she would freak out about things. Like, for example, if he had to like jump off of a curb, he would do that. And you'd be like, oh my God, oh my God. Because she's, yes, you're right. She's not used to it. But that tale comes with time. Judging her because she's freaking out about you being safe is actually really petty.

[00:58:15] And she says, oh my God, she's like, I'm a mom. I just, I wanted him to be safe. That's it. And he's like, yeah, I get that. But I've been spending 25 years in this chair. Doesn't mean you can't have compassion. I also understand from his perspective of I'm just as able-bodied. I'm just in the chair. That's it. But I do understand that part of it too. But just, you know, there should be grace on both ends. That's it.

[00:58:45] Anyway, then we start talking about the awkwardness of the almost sex moment. And he says, you know, pretty much everyone, or sorry, I'm saying pretty much everyone agrees that to move from nothing straight into oral sex is very intimate.

[00:59:13] And it is more intimate than just having straight up intercourse, especially after doing nothing. And Anon, of course, being Anon, shames Ingrid. And trust me, his wife is going to join along. He's like, why would you do that? And, you know, she's like, you're wearing lingerie. Or Tiger Lily says, you're wearing lingerie. It's kind of teasing. So?

[00:59:41] Like, there's nothing wrong with teasing. I think we can all do this because I'm showing myself off to you and opening myself up to the possibility of intimacy doesn't mean that it's a bad thing. Like, it's just, they tried a thing and it didn't work. And I don't think that's crazy. And to judge her for it is fucking ridiculous.

[01:00:06] Um, but basically everyone has degrees here that just because she was wearing lingerie does not mean that he was entitled to have sex with her. And Tiger Lily, again, she's going harder on her than Anon could ever. And she's like, like, her cookie was falling out. Like, the fuck? So? Like, again? So? Why are we shaming her for that, though?

[01:00:37] And Brian says, you know, he's like, on the way, or see, that particular night, she apparently had asked him to stop at a pharmacy that was clearly closed to buy, in order to buy condoms. Like, why would she say that if she didn't want to have sex with me? Well, maybe she's anticipating maybe the night's the night. That does not mean that something can't happen along the way.

[01:01:06] That is going to give her hesitation. Listen, we've all been in situations. Hell, I've been in a situation where I'm like, yeah, I'm going to have sex with this guy. And then in the moment, I'm like, I don't want to. The problem is, is I give Ingrid props to put her foot down and say, I'm not doing this.

[01:01:32] Or unfortunately, my situation, of course, me also being really young, was kind of, you feel obligated to do the thing, to do the deed so that you're not putting yourself in an awkward situation or anything like that. So I think we, as women, could give props to someone who is able to take that power back and not feel threatened while doing it instead of shaming her for it. It's ridiculous.

[01:02:01] And anyways, Bonnie is kind of like, but did she really though? Did she really, did she really tell you to buy condoms? And Ingrid does say, like, the conversation did happen, but whether or not it was that night or a different night, she can't remember. I'm going to say it was probably that night. That's a part of, like, not that it matters though, but I think it was that night.

[01:02:28] But I think she feels like she has to say, I don't recall to say face because we have these freaking fools shaming her for her decisions. Like, it's just, yeah. Anyways, um, Sonia says, either way you put this though, that doesn't give you the right pride to mystery women. He's like, I know, I know. Do you though? Because he's just going to go back into it. Trust me.

[01:02:57] But, um, someone does say to him, like, it does come across as if you're being kind of eager to have this intimacy with her. And, yeah. And, of course, like, how we see him handle himself with a catheter, it is a very eager beaver of him. And he says, after all of, um, after all of that kind of happened that night where she says, like, no, I'm not doing this. She apparently goes to him and says, I have a boyfriend.

[01:03:27] And we're like, wait, what? And, and Vonna says, okay, well then why would she do all of this with you? She has a boyfriend. Now, Ingrid does say, I told him that I was talking to somebody, but I wasn't in a relationship with somebody. She needs to kind of point that out like that did not happen.

[01:03:54] And Sean then asks, like, do you actually have feelings for Brian? She says, I did. And, you know, there was no other boyfriend or not. And she's like, I work in healthcare. And I know that you can get an STD for moral sex. Then we have this idiot Lauren in the background being like, gonorrhea. Okay. God, this is a fucking celebration. Anyway.

[01:04:25] Then we bring up Brianna, Brian's daughter. And she feels like this was kind of this extreme bind date between these two. There was no love between them. That's probably true. And Niles asks her, how old are you, Brianna? She says she's 32. Ingrid isn't one year older. And Niles was like, that would bother me. It would bother me too. It would bother me too.

[01:04:52] But they're used to this because this is what he's been doing. And Vanya says, like, why not date someone who is maybe a little older, who is on your level? And he says, yeah, well, those, you know, the ones who are on my age didn't work with them either. You would maybe have a better chance of working with them because at least they have, not saying they won't have a maturity level depending on the age, but it's just, you know. Then we talk about the things that she'd found out.

[01:05:21] The drugs, that he was married for ties with re-engagements, the catheter and the condom duo. So, and Niles says, so like, I have so many questions. And it is asked of Brianna, like, do you think that he should be testing women with the catheter and the condom? And he's, she's like, no, it's cringy. Thank God.

[01:05:51] And she's like, I, he says, I don't have the time. I need to figure this out now. Why? Why do you need to figure it out now? What is the rush for you? And he's like, I thought it was the right thing to do. So, and Niles asks Ingrid, um, or asks, sorry, asks Brian. So the whole situation with the drug and everything, drugs and everything,

[01:06:17] is she supposed to be happy about your criminal past or like what? And he's like, no, no, I'm not saying she should be happy about it. Because he, you know, obviously wanted a bit of a different response. And then Brianna says, I don't understand how she didn't know how old he was. Because he didn't tell her the truth. That's how. Because he's lying on his dating profile. That's why.

[01:06:46] And she's like, well, what'd you guys talk about for these two years if it's about sex? Don't tell me. And Ingrid says, like, all of these women though for him. And none of them stuck. Like what? What? And Brianna says, because he is 52. What? So you're basically trying to equate the fact that he has all of these failed relationships because of his age. So two, three. Of course he's going to have failed relationships. No, that's not what you're trying to get at.

[01:07:15] It doesn't matter how old he is. Whether he was 32, 52, 72. The fact that you have multiple amount of failed marriages and failed engagements. That says more about you than it does about them. And using his age for the reason why is actually really stupid. But Brian is like, wait a minute, wait a minute. So we're all going to come at me with all of these different questions.

[01:07:42] But, and talking about my love life here. But isn't it her that has two kids with two baby daddies? The fuck you say? So now we're going to shame this woman for having two kids with two different men. And we're just, we're going to do that now. Okay. This guy is garbage. Take the fucking heat. As far as I'm concerned.

[01:08:10] And Sean says, like, do you want to respond to that anger? She's like, no, I'm not going to fire at him the way he's firing at me. He's not going to do any good. I'm not playing his games. Brianna thinks that he shouldn't be in a relationship too late because he isn't one. Take a break. She says, just run away with us for the summer. Let's go for state. I'm sorry. I have to. Take a break. Okay. She's like, you have more time than you think.

[01:08:39] And he's like, yeah, I'm probably not taking that advice. Because again, he's in a relationship. But we are going to take a break now while they have lunch. And then we're going to be meeting his new girlfriend later on. So, yep, it's lunchtime. You know, we kind of broke it off into groups here.

[01:09:01] And Niles says, you know, Anan triggered him with the whole, you know, she's sugar daddy or sugar baby situation. And then Ivani says, like, I don't like, though, that you kind of rushed into marriage. Like, you're part of the rush into marriage group. You guys didn't really talk about things. Which, that I get. And Anan, meanwhile, he's with the other group. And he basically says, you can't sit with us.

[01:09:33] He literally, he calls her in this moment and says, take your food and fuck off. You can't sit with, you can't sit with us. Like, that's literally what he does. And he says, the reason that she says that she can't sit with us is because he thinks that the other group is going to be coming eventually. And he doesn't want bullshit in her ear, I guess. Because she doesn't have a brain. And Lauren's like, I'm not saying anything. So, yeah.

[01:10:03] Anyway, she doesn't sit with us. Um, and we kind of talk about, like, he doesn't respect my marriage and this and that. Just, you know, just reiterating the same nonsense we've already been talking about. And Niles, when Brian leaves, says, he's a creep.

[01:10:32] Then Anan is coming to start some drama because he's like, it's not nice to meet you. No, it's not nice to meet you. And Niles is like, Anan? He's like, yes. He's like, well, you did? That wasn't cool. Why? Why wasn't it cool? He's like, you did that in front of my father. Disrespect.

[01:11:00] You know what happens to people in the South when people do shit like that? Raising up the glasses. He's ready to fight. And I'm over here being like, fight, fight, fight. There's not going to be a fight. But that's literally what I'm doing. And I'm just like, what do you do to people like that down in the South? You know what's going to happen? They're going to fucking you. They're going to fuck you up. That's what's going to happen. I'm going to raise up these glasses and protect my glasses. I'm going to fuck up your face.

[01:11:29] That's like, literally, it was the look on his face was, I'm going to fuck you up. But that is the end of this episode. That is the end of part two. We're going to, again, be in any universe. We're going to be doing two episodes and one episode for Last Resort. And then we will jump into the third episode of The Tell All, which is going to be short. It was only an hour. I don't understand why they did that. But anyways, it's fine. So that's what we'll be doing.

[01:11:58] Next for the B90, or for the 90 universe. Once we are caught up with B90, which I'm not sure we're going to catch up before The Tell All happens, the final part of The Tell All happens. But once we do, we will jump in with Bachelor so we can get through that. And then after Bachelor, most likely going to be jumping in with Young, Famous, and African. We're going to jump into that.

[01:12:27] And I kind of go back and forth with that and Last Resort. So until we finish Last Resort. But anyways, that is that. Again, at the end of the episode, before we close out, Patreon is coming very soon. We're actually going to be launched officially on Saturday. And the first episode coming out on Thursday. So yeah, go over there. Join the fun.

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