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[00:00:00] Welcome to Reality Ties 2. The podcast is where to discuss all the trash reality TV, only of date. I'm Tanyka and today we are going to be discussing the Ultimatum South Africa now, and it's been probably a couple weeks since the first batch of episodes came out our episodes,
[00:00:35] of course because the show has been out for a while. But you probably won't be having to wait too much longer
[00:00:42] for the rest of the episodes. I have watched all the show like every show now, so you should be probably getting all of the episodes by the end of this week.
[00:00:52] So you'll have them all. But of course we're going to be doing three episodes per so we are going to be covering episodes 426 and then we'll do 79 and 1 and then the reunion will be at zone episode. So we should have that done by I believe we should
[00:01:13] bring this cross by the end of the week. But without further ado, we're not doing any haka's, there's no, nothing else we'll know at, nothing we're just focusing on the show. So let's start with the Ultimatum South Africa,
[00:01:32] she's one episode of 4 jealousy and suspicion. So we are with Kenya and an Isaac and they are playing a truderder. And she starts giving him a lap dance so they're definitely like you know,
[00:01:55] have some fun. So good and then we're with Genesis and Courtney and he asks Courtney, are you attracted to me? Because clearly like they're not really surviving the same way that many others are. And they I think he's also, I think she's very close with him.
[00:02:22] And I don't know exactly why the boundaries are up so high, why the walls are up so high. And maybe that she doesn't know him, you know enough to be completely vulnerable with him. Or there could be something in her past that keeps it very closed.
[00:02:43] But I think that's what's happening from for him like are you into me? Do you, you know, she has been proper trial husband and wife in this. And she does say that yes, she finds him attractive.
[00:03:02] But for her it's just because of like her balls are so up high that she doesn't feel comfortable fully being in that. This kind of takes her time. She has to build a trust. She's clearly the kind of person that's not like I just give you trust about
[00:03:21] the path you need to earn it. So Linda lay we see he's cooking. And yes, how do you like can we in my hand or anything?
[00:03:33] So I can remember what he said there. But she taught me to say like it is a difference between Linda lay and Jenna says in the sense of
[00:03:48] Linda lay seems to be the kind of guy who takes care of himself. He's cooking for himself. He's cleaning up himself. Whereas with Jenna says he seems to be kind of like a man baby.
[00:04:01] A little bit and isn't like it's hinting in the same way of Linda lay. I mean, I don't know, Jenna says living situation if he lives with on his own with family, whatever.
[00:04:17] But Linda lay we know his own because our mental ailments is sees all the met. They were neighbors. So I think he does live alone. So he clearly has to be self-sufficient.
[00:04:31] So when you are with a person who is self-sufficient, then that can translate in how it is in a relationship. So I've seen that too in my relationships when you see the difference between someone who is self-sufficient.
[00:04:51] For someone who isn't, it definitely you end up with a Jenna says if they're not, I'm really self-sufficient. And you man to put the window if they are. So it's, you know, yeah, but he says like he's falling for her already.
[00:05:10] Now I don't like, okay, I like Linda. Everybody said like physically he's a kind of type I go for.
[00:05:19] But the fact that he seems to move so quickly in his feelings, it's like a kiss or calm down because you've issued an ultimatum to a woman who only been with her six months.
[00:05:35] And after we're like a week, if that into this experiment in the mental ailment, and you're already saying you're falling in love with her. Like I don't know. I don't know. I have been with men who quote unquote say they're falling in love.
[00:05:55] Me, if I was me, and he's telling me or he's expressing he's falling for me. I would be like, no you're not.
[00:06:07] Guys, I'm just going to trust in all some men can move quickly like that, but I mean, no then we got a hidden and a level coming over for It's bright right for sure. The correct, you bright. Which is basically like barbecue.
[00:06:26] They're coming for that. So eight in says him and Lebo have become good friends and more like roommates but they're not. It's not like that romantic sense or they're trying to build upon that.
[00:06:46] I think even though Lebo has issued the ultimatum, she's all about no la and then with Eden in Courtney. They seem even though obviously Courtney's issued, she is. They, these are two, well I want to say three. These are three people in their respective relationships.
[00:07:12] They're just all the same. They're even Courtney and there is them. They will go on her own and her as well. Get through it. Trust me. But these are three people who came into this, even though issuing very much are doing it.
[00:07:27] In dedication to their relationship, I promise I make work. They aren't necessarily trying to leave. I don't think so I think like it's very interesting to kind of see the three of them.
[00:07:46] Very much not in this in the same way or maybe just someone incapable of being in it in the same way.
[00:07:57] Maybe the others are for their own reasons. Tabby is like the connection with Linda Le, it's great. He does all the things and this was, she said one of the, sorry,
[00:08:11] they mentioned like this was actually the default choice, tabby and Linda Le. They were stuck with each other because there was no one else.
[00:08:21] And it seems to have become pretty strong connection between the two of them. But of course, fear is still there to potentially lose Genesis for her. And labor was like it definitely seems that tabby has fallen in love with Linda Le which again I just don't.
[00:08:47] How you fall in love this quickly with anybody anyways? Then we find out that Genesis has cheated before. Right? It was Genesis. I think it was Genesis because I was actually confused here only because of who we know.
[00:09:07] Thinking that my name might have been no love. I think who was Genesis, as I said, has it as it's hashed you to before which is your ex.
[00:09:16] And he was I can't I don't have a like stand on if you're able to forgive it's possible. I've and again they're young.
[00:09:28] I think they're in our late twenties still so then they've been together for seven or so years. So I mean in my experience with some I have been often on with my current for the same amount of time.
[00:09:46] They need to grow. And I think once they're able to grow and learn that's very possible to come out of the other side and be happy and be faithful and be dedicated to the relationship.
[00:10:04] You need to go the trials and the tribulations. Not seeing you do that but to see with it comes the trials and tribulations and it's all my.
[00:10:14] In theory we'll take a through it and pass it so I'm not judging that they've stayed together because I've done it I'm doing it. I so I get it. But I guess I wasn't expecting to expect it. He says such a nice guy for them again.
[00:10:31] That's just even so moving on. Wrauth is like I feel happy that Noah on Noah comes home. She says she kind of like follows him around kind of like a puppy and he feels like he's going to happy whole with her.
[00:10:54] So back with Leipel she is really feeling it and she says she misses Noah. Which I want to be a bitch but I want to be he ain't messing her.
[00:11:12] He's not I'm going to get to him let me get to him gets to the bullshit with him but with Noah.
[00:11:24] He's a pleasure ring for me because he reminds me of guys I've dated. I don't know where exactly in Africa they're from. I feel like not everyone is from South Africa maybe I'm wrong but maybe you know we could have people from other countries.
[00:11:42] But he just so much reminds me of an ex that I use a date who would be the flirt who would charm his way through things who would manipulate do all those things and she's she's falling into it.
[00:12:01] And I hate that for but you are guys I know what happens. I'm the same as I hate for her anyway she misses him and she says if intimacy happens between them she would be upset.
[00:12:18] And then I guess now Leipel and Edin are kind of deciding to creep around and kind of spy on everybody to have a little fun. Then Leipel so while they're going around to each home they do land that Noah and Ruth.
[00:12:42] And Edin dips because he's like oh I'm a boy and yayy but the turn of the round of realises that Leipel was still staring in the window which is really first of all the decision making of doing this.
[00:13:00] I'm not great. You shouldn't be curbing around and staring at people staring at their homes and I am not saying that what Leipel did.
[00:13:13] Or roping Edin was anyway malicious but y'all can we agree she robed him in to do it in this and it's like okay you say let's go do this and I feel like Edin's like oh. I don't know man but then he agrees and they're doing it.
[00:13:35] No I'm out of like Linda and Abby and then go into the cato and.
[00:13:40] And I was in the kato as I could say is I want to think of the kato and see that on the go round and then they land at Noah and Ruth and that was her and all the entire time her and goal was to end up at Noah and Ruth.
[00:13:56] Because she can't stand this but the thing is like and all his defense with this only. You issued the ultimate of you had to know that he is going to form a connection with the person he's spending three weeks with.
[00:14:18] I am not saying that connection should end up with his dick and her. I'm a little roll connection I'm not saying that should have happened because I don't think we'll get to it but. It's like you knew he's going to form some type of connection to her.
[00:14:38] And you want to get upset because he is and that doesn't make any sense to me. But. So yeah she kind of is sitting around that they're talking inside and all that and worth but then they're like you hear that.
[00:14:57] They realize there's Ruth can you imagine can you imagine you're just in your home minding your own damn business. And you're like, what's up? And I think what's basically going on is the reason that they were hearing was eight in line back say,
[00:15:21] Ruth we got to quickly what are you doing. And she's saying they're holding hands on my got the rolling hands and like freaking out and they're hearing her freaking out about him holding. Ruth's hand which girl. You. What what they have done at this point.
[00:15:42] They hands I should but. Yeah, she's freaking out but it can you just imagine that you look like you're down window and there's your girlfriend is staring at you. That is some that has some single wifey and multi-push. I'm serious. What the fuck. There isn't movie her actually.
[00:16:08] Black people with Geraji, behind and I get my room also say that she's like the crazy ex girlfriend types of situation. And I was like girl. Like not cool like anyway. So yes, she's a guy that I'm holding her hand and he denies it.
[00:16:29] Flat out in her face the nights that he was holding her hand. You like you must crazy. I was holding her hand. And this is what I mean. Like he is such a fucking manipulator. And this is.
[00:16:46] This is why I say that he triggers me because I have an ex just like him. And African as well. I can't imagine I was trying to try whatever but I think that's why there's the whole thing of it just drickers me.
[00:17:01] And he would say, let me heat my ex. Head on a friend of mine. Like I didn't him in high school. I did him. Well, we'll see he was in my life physically physically. In my life we dated. Often on me and we off as we were.
[00:17:22] But he stuck around for a little bit until I met my ex husband. But I dated him roughly from 17. Tell about the time of my ex which was. But say 20 21 or 22. And I remember my friend calling me up saying, yeah, so someone so was like hitting on me.
[00:17:50] Whatever because like they were. Because I was like open with my friends whatever. I trust in my friends for the most part of my suit. As you prove that to the otherwise but. I trust in my friends and they were talking to him.
[00:18:05] I was particularly a friend and she tells me. Yeah, he was hitting on me. You know, saying all of this stuff. And till the point where. Because I confronted him and he was like, no, not into that. I didn't do that.
[00:18:23] And he's like, are you in kidding me? Yeah, he did. So she's like, okay, let's, you know, back in the day we're talking. Back in the day everybody. Where you have three way of phone calls. So she that's what she did like a three way phone call.
[00:18:37] And she calls him. She like, you know, trying to beat him into flirting. And he did. And I said, motherfucker, I call you. And to my face in the way no la did till lapo is literally like. I was telling her what you mean. I just heard you.
[00:19:02] I just heard you. Your voice, I know your voice, I just heard you. Are you kidding? This is the same shit that he's doing. And it's like, I'm sorry. Do men never grow up? I mean, I'll give it like a benefit of the doubt he was at 24. Right?
[00:19:19] Like, no one's on the whole mouth supposed to be. But late 20s are really dirty. He's like, you just tell me that they never fucking rub. Okay. Great. But it's just the fucking ridiculous, but two her face. He says no. But then Ruth comes to help.
[00:19:38] And she's like, I know I saw you guys holding hands. But he's telling me you did it. And Ruth, playing that fucking day is like, yeah, he's on the man. It just so wise he lines at me. Here's why he's lying because he has to self-preserve.
[00:19:57] This man literally says, I'm going to deny tonight. And I am going to see it again. This is not the first time we're going to see him tonight. And he says tonight and I, even though I saw him, I don't do fucking eyes that you did it.
[00:20:09] And then here comes Ruth's thing. He's telling her the truth. And tells her the truth. But this is the thing. He is fucking with a label. Not telling her the truth. Whether or not she should have been there is, we talked about it. But here like your liner.
[00:20:33] And then you have Ruth on the other side. He was like being used to this whole thing. It's bullshit. I hate him. I really don't. I really don't like him. But no one does. But I also see how that goes. And label.
[00:20:57] We know that I think goes after her. But when I think Ruth, I think everyone goes after them. I kind of go away with that direction. And the one thing that I did say is like, okay. And all they both upset about seeing us.
[00:21:19] But it's no one talking about the fact that they were creeping on them. And Ruth does say, and she says, why were you even creeping and looking into our apartment? That's an invasion of privacy. It's like your peepin. It's weird. But Ainin does it.
[00:21:41] Me, yeah, that was wrong. More towards what's happening. Maybe this fun thing, whatever. It was supposed to be completely innocent. I did not know she was going to do that. And I was hard to get her to leave with me. But she wouldn't.
[00:21:57] So he admits like it was a bad idea. They shouldn't have done it. It wasn't meant to be malicious in any way. And on his part, I'm not too sure about label. And I don't know if malicious is the right word to use.
[00:22:11] And he definitely broke him and turned her shenanigans. And the analysis can we just trust this process? The process of wish label acts soon to be a part of it. And she agrees, she agrees too. But it's like he's playing you.
[00:22:30] He's playing you and you don't even know. And that's what's sad. We hear as a viewer is literally seeing how Noah is not only playing label but it's playing roof. And it's just like this is fucking ridiculous. That will move has her faculties about her.
[00:22:53] She may choices too and we will tackle that. But it's just like his reasons for doing what he does. Versus a root reason for doing what he does. It's like I feel like Noah did it to say it because I can.
[00:23:10] And I feel like we're roofed at it because well Isaac doesn't give a shit. And not saying either way is right, but I don't think. I don't know what this feeling and all is reasons for doing things was just way more vindictive than
[00:23:29] Ruth because only because I think they're going to be the pattern with him. Based on what label has said before. This is not a first time. There's no way of looking hell. That this is the first time this guy has to yearn on her.
[00:23:47] He's definitely to yearn on her before. 1,000% if he hasn't yearn on her before will shit. I'm shocked but there's no way in hell this man hasn't to. I'm sorry no. I'm not trusting anyone's force men she come on anyway. So we are in in Genesis and Kenna.
[00:24:08] Oh yeah I guess Kenna. And I think that's Kenna. Kenna, Kenna. Me is in the cock too. I mean I got to so yeah we got through them. And not really much here really to say except for Genesis as it's really tough with
[00:24:23] Courtney because she doesn't open up. So Noah is getting worth a massage recently later. But she does tell me I do think you're a crook. Interesting. Interesting that you would say I think you're a crook but I believe she's with him that night or
[00:24:46] some time along after this and it's like you think he's a crook. Yeah you're gonna sleep with him. I'm sorry but trust the gut your gut is telling you. This man ain't your ass robbing.
[00:25:01] She says if it's not gonna mean me it's gonna be a way but we'll die. Die. And I can tell you right now it's even before we find out the what happens here. Of course it was never gonna be roof.
[00:25:18] And I know that it was never gonna be Noah for her either. They're using each other. Okay so then Kenya. The fucking Kenya I am sorry. I can't stand her. I can't stand her at all. Let's continue. She sees the cat toe with Caesar.
[00:25:43] And she says isn't she too big for her for him to be carrying her? Bitch. Are you fucking kidding me and this is not the first time that she's going to be a body shamer. It gets worse. Lindley is also seeing it too.
[00:26:04] And he's just freaking out. He's like what the fuck clearly it's on purpose. And Tabi is like they're doing what we are doing. Like what's the issue here? Because the the thing is is it's not a surprise Kenya is spiraling.
[00:26:25] This is why she's acting the way she is. Not saying it's right to body shamer people. But she is spiraling. Lindley is also spiraling as well. But this is the process. Kenya you issued. Lindley you issued.
[00:26:39] So you have to know I'm not so like because you issued you should expect it. But it's just like you should expect it. The difference between Kenya and Lindley is. Kenya is not really flaunting. What's going on between her and I said can I run out of space?
[00:26:59] And the same way. But Lindley is. So it's like really. And it pushes us. Yeah, they want to be outside who cares. And she feels like she does a tapy feels like she's he's being a hypocrite. And I agree. So Isaac is taking Kenya to me as family.
[00:27:22] And he says, you know, he says she makes them feel better. Whatever. And family has never met with if we remember. It's never my worth. And only I heard of him once. So they don't even know they have serious. They really are. And the family. Sorry.
[00:27:42] So they ask Kenya, can you cook? And she's like, I don't like the cook. It's just like these questions that all she has to do. She's like, she thinks they're Charles questions. They're fucking questions. I'm going to ask the questions.
[00:27:56] Because unfortunately again, you know, I think like South Africa can be very different than other countries. But not really. Okay. And like I say this based on the fact that I am with South African men who says, Well, not only, not much difference. And other countries.
[00:28:18] And this is kind of the thing is the woman. Take care of the home, take care of the kids, take care of the husband. This is those traditional gender rules. And so it's not surprising that they're going to ask you, can you cook? Now saying it's right.
[00:28:40] But it's not surprising. And this is kind of a person who is not at all African. Only, you know, dates one. But it's not surprising. And not only that, but when you watch 90 day, you have had many African people on the show.
[00:29:03] We here, if the traditional gender rules. So I'm surprised that a person who is African is surprised by the questions. So it's anyway. She's like, I can cook, but I just don't like it. And as I just like, it's on expectation as a woman.
[00:29:20] But it's like, I have to cook a lot of things. And I think it's like, I can cook a lot of things. But I think it's not surprising. But it's like, I have to cook my food.
[00:29:35] And as cousin is like, she seems kind of more like an Instagram girl. She doesn't actually seem like a authentic person. I don't know if I go as far as I say Instagram girl because I actually don't get those vibes from her.
[00:29:51] But she's more, she's very, I better than you for sure. And the reason is meaning labels family. So meaning labels friend, I pick you all now, apparently. And her friends like, worth no la, no la is too busy with his trial life.
[00:30:10] Anyways, even as like our place to invite these, she has like, okay, so what would the old you participate in someone else? And Abigail says, do you think no la is the one because no it is what it is?
[00:30:24] And yeah, she does think that he is the one I don't know why but it was. Kenya says marriage isn't important, but I do want, I don't want kids outside of marriage. Hold on to that. So what do you think is a good wife Isaac?
[00:30:47] And he says well, who he thinks is one I cares for their husband, his cares are wants, serve, whatever. She says, I shouldn't have to compromise. Oh, I agree with her. I do agree with her. I think her approach is sometimes awkward.
[00:31:13] But she feels, you know, why do we take care of her? And why do we take care of that it's not just something you taste. It says like that's turning him off.
[00:31:24] But like you can tell like you is more traditional man who wants a woman to take care of him and wants a woman to want to do those things. But that's not getting out. I don't think that's a root. Like that's the interesting part.
[00:31:41] And it asks her, like pretty much ask her, like what do you bring to the table as a woman wanting to be married? Because I guess what he's trying to say is like if you're like okay.
[00:31:58] If you're going to potentially marry someone through our relationship, you're going to kind of realize all this person can, you know, take care of themselves. They work. They need so they have money coming in. They can cook, they can make and do all those things.
[00:32:20] So those are kind of things that he's trying to figure out. So what do you bring to the table? Because right now he's in seeing any of those things. He's seeing dishes or getting piled up in the sink. He's seeing that she's not cooking or anything.
[00:32:34] Like what the fuck do you do to eat? You say all those things, you think all things was exalted you bring. And he's not allowed to sell cliche but I am the table. Now that's some confidence. Okay. I think it's a good fucking line.
[00:32:54] When we're dealing with again, traditional men, especially eyes like I don't think that's all of what. Isaac, you can't feel if he's a very traditional man. Innocents. I do think he's going to break out of that but he's a fair traditional man.
[00:33:13] And saying you're in the damn table and you'll work with him. That ain't gonna work. He doesn't want you to be the table. He wants you to run shit to the table. So is it really? Is that huge red flick?
[00:33:38] Anyway, we love all of the couples doing couples. You know, couples, you all go wherever. This is the first time that Courtney and Genesis are being at a whole physical with each other. They didn't have enough in our office school.
[00:33:52] And Caesar is like this is easy doing this. And Caesar tells Ruth she could see herself being or leaving Linda for Nicarco. Nicarco. She could see herself doing that. And see that tells Ruth, you and Nola deserve to have deserve to have each other.
[00:34:18] And Courtney tells Nicarco, you can be canyess punching back. Which it feels like she is doing that to him. And again knowing what I know, watching the entire season, it's surprising to me that she isn't this way all the time. But that's what it feels like.
[00:34:45] And I think your Reynolds wanted to pick up on that as well. And not only is she using him as a punching bag but she's also using Caesar as well. But she's like, I don't think you guys see each other. So yeah.
[00:35:01] We got both Kenyan Isaac kind of arguing now having a little bit of a fight about dishes. And Isaac says that he will use dishes or she will use dishes but not clean them. So you're using dishes. Whatever those are just maybe. And not cleaning up after yourself.
[00:35:26] Like that's barbaric. But he says these are four plates he says in the sick. Who is usually like how we were wearing these in four plates? It's just you before I came home. Where's four plates? Anything like watch the fucking plates.
[00:35:45] Like I shouldn't have to watch the plates. Watch the bathroom. Like once in a while whatever. But if he has to constantly do it because you're not. It's a fucking problem. And I hate this shit. She's kind of person that says, but I didn't delete it.
[00:36:02] And I didn't delete it. But you're not. So we don't do even there until the next fucking day because it's like time now. Don't always have to have time with this. You're your line and better or some shit.
[00:36:14] And you're clearly not going to get up and clean after yourself at this point. Like why can't you just done it after eating? Like yes, throughout the day while I'm working. I'm on a really cleaning up all the dishes.
[00:36:30] Now if it's dishwasher and whatever in dishwasher is as dirty, stuff and in a ready, I will do my best to put the dishwasher stuff in there. And the big clean up will happen after work if I'm home. And but otherwise, like all the weekend,
[00:36:49] you know, as long as, you know, my mom's all cooking or whatever and we have a small kitchen. But I will clean up after myself. She will do the same so that the dishes aren't piling up. They do yes at during the week because I'm working.
[00:37:07] And I don't have time to unpack dishes and wash dishes while working. That's one thing. But they get done right after work. Give her a take. So it's like you can't otherwise you're cleaning up after yourself as you do. Why can't you do that?
[00:37:26] Because clearly I think it's the kind of person who does do that. And I'm with him. Why can't you do that? Anyway, she's like I didn't tell you to do it and I do it. So I feel like my problem that you're doing it.
[00:37:39] But it is your problem because you can't use your living like an animal that you can't do yourselves. You shouldn't have to. But I guess like yeah, no, I do not need to be here. And he walks out the front door.
[00:37:53] And that is the end of episode four. We're going to take a break here and when we come back, we will jump in with episode five. And I'm back. Let's jump in with a episode five called I believe real manipulation.
[00:38:19] So Isaac went over to Linda and and tap him. And he tell when or talks to Linda but what happened? And then tap he comes by and she's like, what's going on? But then she leaves and she doesn't talk to can now.
[00:38:41] And can it tell the story about being the only one buying groceries? Or is he just going to have a sip because she's only one going up there and buying groceries? Now under the circumstances, maybe I can understand it.
[00:39:02] Usually I won't be the only one to buy in groceries. But in a regular marriage situation, it's not necessarily going to be both of you going to have their going to grocery shopping all the time.
[00:39:14] Or you will be paying for groceries and maybe not having or maybe it's vice versa or whatever. It's that's normal. Like if I'm going to go grocery shopping honestly, I'm perfectly fine doing that on my own. Or you know,
[00:39:30] not necessarily have the expectation that my partner has to come with me everything was on my go grocery shopping. Like I said, not necessary. Honestly, really, I'm a person who can do ship by themselves. Just put me in a grocery store and me plug in,
[00:39:49] listen to Spotify or something and go about my business. Perfectly fine with that. But so yeah, she's going to complain about that. Then the curl's over to the guys and Isaac is like, we sort of are many things as I don't know how she or he's at.
[00:40:13] I don't know how to cook. Well then that's playing a lot. He says his mom will do it if she is around and she's going to be a little bit more like a little bit more.
[00:40:22] So I'm going to talk about the other guys that's like you start apparently. Now that explains everything. Sir, we're out of fucking cook. You should learn how to fucking cook. Like you can't be relying on mommy or your future wife to cook for you.
[00:40:38] Grow fucking pair and cook drunk at the end food. I do have to go for you with her on that. I go for something like fucking problem. Who told you not to know how to cook? You know what I mean? But anyway, no one breath.
[00:40:54] I'm waiting up at her family and her brother asks, who would you prefer to spend, you know, turn it to you with between Nola and Isaac. And with a lot of avoidance, she does eventually say, or does, sorry, of course,
[00:41:14] but I just don't know what they asked the question to. So would you know L'Ula prefer to be with L'Avo or the reverse? But yes, typical Mola fashion he avoids avoidance than eventually says birth. I don't believe him.
[00:41:29] I don't believe he would want to spend the entire day with either Ruth or L'Avo. I think he's a kind of person that goes with the flow whatever the front of me if it's the front of me. I don't believe cool, if it wasn't the front of me.
[00:41:43] Cool too. He does care as long as something with a vagina in the front of him. I don't think he cares. Maybe I'm just being real hard on him. But I don't think he really cares who he's got the same with. Her sister doesn't trust it either
[00:41:59] and we heard the same. I am her and she is me because we are close the same way of life. Don't trust it. Anyway, just in the morning go out and two weeks into this, they finally decide let's start actually dating when we have like a week left.
[00:42:18] Ridiculous. And it was tabby and d'Ale go to me her people and tabby says that Genesis makes lots of excuses. You know, she will say like financially he needs to say about money, pay for it. I didn't catch the proper term,
[00:42:37] but we can gather us the bread, bread, bread, bread, bread. So it's he needs to pay for that. And I mean, it happened with their house before right. But yeah, like he'll have to pay for that. He just doesn't say if she says like he could
[00:42:55] we do it and he could be saving up for everything that you need to save before but he's not doing that. So that's a problem. And Linda Lee, she says he's great, but her friend Jenny says, but you're in this bowl,
[00:43:16] currently, you know, you're in the bubble of the experiment. Of course, then the way they will look good, you know, you don't know each other outside of this. You know, you're putting your best foot forward. And again, that's something everyone does in your best foot forward.
[00:43:32] You give it a couple of months. And then, you know, maybe maybe more like read to six before you start getting real comfortable with that person and you're like, I got you. Hook line and finger and you, you don't have the crazy out, right? And that's,
[00:43:50] that's the thing, right? Like you don't know him enough to live in three weeks. It's all enough time to really feel like you would give up what you've had for seven years, for something you've only established in three weeks. And her sister says, you know,
[00:44:11] many of them till I came for this experiment with a different intention. After all, he has an actor, right? Maybe he came to me, I'll tell you, to build up the brand. I mean, while split in one given all tomato, six months of dating. And I hear it.
[00:44:38] I actually understand why they said that. Because the thing is, like, when you have people on this show on this particular iteration, being together for six years, seven years, two years even. And then you land with Linda Land, sees that any issues and all tomato, you can.
[00:45:00] I have been in a relationship for seven years. Now, I'm kind of a more perspective of person who's been through to four, so a moment, that's a little brush. But it's like, I don't know if there were seven years and there's no pressure whatsoever.
[00:45:13] I don't need it to be married to somebody to still achieve the things in life. I need to achieve because I do have that thought of it's just a fucking piece of paper. And once I'm fed up with you or once things are working out
[00:45:33] to the point where I'm not able to fix those things or we're not able to fix those things. It's another piece of paper that says, and alonger, we, with you. And it's so simple. It's so simple. It's not simple, but in the sense of, I do give you,
[00:45:54] get a lawyer or some money and then with any year, year and a half, it's done. If you don't have kids, you need to use your assets. But it's like, that's exactly it. It's nothing but a piece of paper. And why would this person after six months?
[00:46:16] When I marry somebody, it's just, that's not enough time to know. For some sure, maybe it is, but I'm just saying the reality of things you don't know a person. I mean, four years into the my relationship, I was learning new things. Seven years in,
[00:46:40] I'm learning new things. I don't know everything about him. Nor does he know everything about me. I think that's the fun of it. But that just goes to show, if I would have married him, six months in my God. Like, I don't, I don't know what it is.
[00:47:04] See, she's the wrong, but I definitely understand what her sister's saying. Then we are with Nikato, and he wants to see that to me, his mom. Now, his mom is, I believe in Saudi Arabia. If I caught that from Kenya, properly. So they're going to be video-holing her.
[00:47:24] And his mom is like, can't be the one going to change? I don't like her. I don't like her. I think like low-key or answer wants him to be with let's see, overkill, totally get it. I want to be with Kenya. I want to want my child
[00:47:47] to be with Kenya either, personally. Because clearly you're not treating my child right, you don't know me. Like, anyways, yes, she feels like she would never change. Mama's harsh. So, then I suck is meeting up with Lebo. To basically say, I go and fuck the,
[00:48:19] and never show her a rejects it to you. I pick this bitch. He does call her a bitch. I don't know in that. I pick this bitch. And she is fucking crazy. And, you know, any of those things I'm not saying she's crazy. But she is no mean.
[00:48:36] And she don't look for me. I show the picture to you. I want to find a better experience. It might be Lebo, would've had a better experience as well. But Lebo has to tell him. Like, she's literally here in a moment. I'm not trying to say,
[00:48:55] I told you so about I told you so. But she says to him, I actually have something for your birthday. Which is like, are you fucking serious? He's like, he doesn't know. Like, Ruth on his birthday. And she's so free and Rob style. Look at that.
[00:49:11] Later on when I cover that episode. Literally. I don't even know if you didn't even text eyes like to say happy birthday. Didn't do shit. It's like, I'm sorry. But like, I'm not saying that I do like a big thing for my boyfriend every year or whatever.
[00:49:28] But I think I don't forget the day he was born because they called for the day that he was born because I get to call him mine. How do you just not acknowledge that? You know what I mean? Again, I don't always do big things.
[00:49:45] But he always started buying a gift for his birthday or the past his past birthday. It is so famous for his whole gone a little gift, whatever. And it also does what in God. Like a cupcake for his birthday. I will candle in it,
[00:50:00] lit it up and just that one little thing like he was very appreciative of it. And he's like, How could you not? Like, I don't got it. But you can be mad at him at all the other stand-matte.
[00:50:17] But I'm still going to acknowledge the day he was born. Because if I were for that, like, you know, it's not but, yeah, he's definitely a feeling his decision of not picking her. So, yeah, we got a lot. He's with Aden, Ellen D'Aye. And in front of,
[00:50:41] I don't think, I think it was Isaac and Fervinalus as, or maybe, sorry, maybe it was Noah, son and friend of him, that he would pickly, I will not worth. I'm talking for his, but whatever, maybe it was. And he wise to them too, about, oh no,
[00:50:57] I haven't kissed Ruth at all. So you have stuck your whole part into her, and you're over here being like, oh, because of, this fucking guy he's even lying to the guy is, which I can maybe understand him, maybe not coming out with it with Isaac, because it's,
[00:51:18] you need to self-preserve. But it's just like, well, maybe with the guy is too, because they probably will tell Isaac, but it's so weird to me. Anyway, any of us, actually, when he says something, it's up with Noah, and no one is believing that nothing is happening.
[00:51:36] He says, he's avoiding. And Noah goes back to Ruth, and y'all, this is the same guy who two seconds ago was heard at the guy's, now I'm kissed, nothing's happened, so good. And he goes back to Ruth and they fuck that night. I'm so baffled
[00:51:58] by this fucking guy. It's one thing if you want to say, listen, Y'all know intimacy just doesn't just mean sex, but you want to keep it somewhat truthful, but don't want to come all the way out with that, which is whatever. Eventually it's going to come out.
[00:52:16] You're being filmed. There's literally a fucking camera, facing your fucking bed. Okay. But anyways, you could say there is a form of intimacy going on with those goblah. That is better than just completely the same mom, I don't guess. Are you fucking kidding me?
[00:52:34] Kissing is nothing compared to what the fuck y'all really do. Like, it's just unreal. I'm real with this guy. Anyway. So big up boys and girls, mates, so we're going to be kind of going back over after doing that. So, my last eight in.
[00:52:56] Did you bed my girl over? No. No, but your shirt's help ending eyes. That's, you know what I mean? It's gross because it's like, you was like, beating them to no the fuck you're doing. By asking questions like that,
[00:53:15] yet you'll see more I'd say not a shit has happened when it's been happening. See some mentions that she met the cops as a mom. And of course, can't is like, pal, isn't she not in Saudi Arabia? Like, well, how old are you? And she's like,
[00:53:37] oh, well, he video called her. And sometimes, like, but I'm eating her. You didn't mean her. You didn't mean her. You didn't mean her. You didn't mean her. She met her. She met her in a way that she couldn't meet her. Because she didn't physically. Doesn't matter.
[00:53:52] You physically met his mom. And she didn't like your ass. You know what I mean? She met sees a lot of video calls. She's like, I like you better. You know what I mean? Flesh it. Anyway, Kenya says, well, I met Isaac's cousin and Ruth, she's like,
[00:54:09] oh, the fuck. She's like, I've been with him for a good thing to go to here. It's like I've never met him. But the man is family. And only when they know about me. Which is true. They don't know about her. They have not met her. Yeah,
[00:54:24] here comes Kenya. And in two tools are meeting her. Now is he meeting or the meeting her because of the process? Or is he on the meeting? Because he actually wants them to be her, which I know Vicky does. But it's just like,
[00:54:37] if you could have this process enough that me, her, we can't yet. Why could I need to done that with Ruth outside of this process? It's ridiculous. Anyway, Noah and Ruth are taking the stance of they haven't had sex. They're both telling their respective groups
[00:55:00] that no sex tabony. If you don't know, he's living with like, oh, yeah, we don't know when we don't get it. But just told bullshit. And it's just, it's just interesting with their both. Clearly have come together to, to say it's why. And, Kenya and Sebastian everybody,
[00:55:24] so is anyone gone all the way? Okay, so before we continue here. I'm sure we all can understand that definition of going all the way. It means have your f**ks, each other yet, right? But my girl sees up. It's like,
[00:55:40] what does all the way mean to you? No, man. No, man. All the way means all the way. And I agree with Kenya here too. She's like, all the way, that's one definition. And you're like, well, no, I'll get to mean different things. But I'm gonna be, no.
[00:55:56] That's, I know like, when someone says, I've hooked up with somebody. That can potentially mean two different things. That from, I still think hookin' up means, you're fucked. But for some people, it could, you could say that hookin' up could just be making out whatever.
[00:56:16] But when you've seen somebody, we call it all the way. That is, there is no, like, up misunderstanding that. Have you fucked? It's real simple. But she's not sure about that. So, yeah. But Kenya says that her and Katu have not had sex
[00:56:50] in a bit of a year. What? Oh, it's a long time. And then, for whatever reason, sees us shocked by this, which I think everybody would be shocked by that. So, years of long time, when you're in a relationship in the other kind of like,
[00:57:08] but Elfison can mechanicals off on her. And she's like, oh, yeah, he's just using you for sex, and this is not, it's like, he's not even trying to have sex with her at all. He has my attempt at the most that they've done is,
[00:57:24] I guess we kind of make out or whatever. They, he has not even attempted to have sex with her, nor has she attempted to have sex with him. But I feel like, in Kenya's mind, that he is how he's sex with her,
[00:57:38] or he is trying to have sex with her. Which, just don't understand how you jump to that conclusion and why he's onto that conclusion, has he given you a reason to jump to the conclusion like that? It's, it's interesting to kind of see this pile with her,
[00:57:57] where she's just kind of like, these are using you, but it's like, but nothing's going on between, between, it's real interesting. But Tally, she kind of says, yeah, not likeying her five right now. And we're just like, or I think somewhere, in the way,
[00:58:14] it's found out that Kenya and Isaac have actually not, they have sex, but they have to see each other naked. And Ruth's like, oh, oh, let's know the y'all very comfortable with each other that y'all can just be naked with each other. First of all, number one, Ruth,
[00:58:35] Paul, Paul, Carol, you kidding? Ma'am, not only have y'all seen each other naked, he has stuck his member into you. You have no leg to stand on. Number two, it's really interesting that she could sit here and be like, well, he's just using you, sees a,
[00:58:57] when you're walking around naked and run, oh, no, no, no, like, I'm sorry, but for me, it takes me, having sex with somebody, being vulnerable in that way, to that feel comfortable to be vulnerable to have sex. So that can move differently in different ways,
[00:59:16] depending on whom and where. It, it took me a minute to become to be like that with my boyfriend with my ex, something like nothing. I was comfortable with the bad, which was very digital for me at the time. But, yeah, like,
[00:59:34] I would not feel comfortable with somebody to just naked like, you know what? I was just a, to feel that control. Fuck, I was just a him too, but like, kudos to her, Kenya, that she can't feel like a fool, because I don't know how to
[00:59:49] even say that. So I'll give her that. But, damn, you're just, I'll hear a really new it is, boobs, ass, pussy out, and you're just good to go. If for this man who you just met, like, incredible, anyways. So yeah, I look at, like, oh,
[01:00:12] do you think Kenya is a goldier? And I'm sure it's by this question, because I didn't get the five. That Kenya's really a goldiger. Kenya is, as we've been saying, opinionated, which is like, another nice way of saying, bitchy, but it's like,
[01:00:33] I can see her being very opinionated. I could see her being a little mean. Goldiger, I just didn't see where that was coming from. Adol, and he says, I didn't think she would be happy without money. Now, what does I mean?
[01:00:58] Now are you saying that she wouldn't be happy with someone who doesn't have a job? Because neither but I, you need to, you get to a point in life or you need to have a feel like you have to. That's like,
[01:01:07] you have to have a feel like you have this financial security, whether within yourself or within yourself, and in with your partner. So it's just like having financial security or financial, some form of financial freedom is not both or the other, or one of the other.
[01:01:23] But you feel like you can have that. Is that considered goldiger? You know, hearing, hearing, defending her, but it's like, I just wanted to be with someone who's financial insecure. Like, I don't see the issue there at all. But so throwing up the goldiger thing is just like,
[01:01:48] weird. And we kind of start talking about Caesar's laugh with Nikato. And Tadly is actually the one who brings it up because she could hear them. And she's like, girl, who you laughin' about. And of course, Kenya is being Kenya. And with it kind of being like,
[01:02:11] I know his laugh. I know he's like, fake laughing with you. Like, I hear that laugh. Like, he's in this fake. And it's like, again, you're deflecting because you feel threatened by her, which I get that. But it is like, that's what Caesar's fault. That's...
[01:02:31] That's not even hate-s fault. You, you stupid, I just hear the irony. But Ruth does say to Lavo, I want to kind of have a mom on conversation with you without everybody else. And know that does say the same thing. I think if I say because well,
[01:02:46] but I think I said, and it's a telling Nola that I do have a friendship of Lavo. And I want to continue having that relationship with her. And finally enough. Interesting. Nola literally says, no, no, no. I don't like the idea of you having a friendship
[01:03:06] with my woman. Are you fucking kidding me? This is the same fucking guy who... isn't owning up the hishirt. But literally it fucking isx. Woman, if you want to use those terms, which I don't really particularly like using those terms, but this is the terms that you use.
[01:03:27] I'm not your property, whatever right. But he's at a hear fucking Ruth. And that's okay. But Isaac can't have our friendship with Lavo a strictly, plachhonic friendship. Servers nothing for you to worry about because he literally rejected Lavo at the choice.
[01:03:53] And you're out here, we let no, no. I don't want you being friends with Lavo. You're fucking ridiculously dumb. Like I would be ashamed to call him my boyfriend honestly. Now, if there is a history there, any he feels uncomfortable with the sad history,
[01:04:21] that can lead to disgust. But there is no history here. There's just the person who cares about her and wants to fill upon that friendship with her. And vice versa. This puny sad excuse of a man wants to be open as feeling
[01:04:43] because God forbid Lavo has a friendship with someone of the opposite sex. It's fucking ridiculous. And it's even worse when you out onto the fact that he's having sex with Ruth behind both Lavo and Isaac's back. It's fucking comical. But meanwhile, with the women, Ruth
[01:05:16] and Lavo are talking, okay, they're all. And Ruth tells her, listen, I want to tell you the truth. I think you deserve to know. And I think she has the professor, like I'm not telling you this. It hurts you. I think you really do need to.
[01:05:38] And she says, Listen, me and Nola have had sex out once in a twice let's go fucking right. Lavo, she's pissed. She leaves at this point. But she does think her for telling her of a truth. And that is the end of episode five. Wow,
[01:05:59] these episodes have been a little longer or the beach. So, has it had a little longer but we're still going to do three. It's worth a single break here. And when we come back, we will finish up this episode with episode six. All right. And I'm back.
[01:06:24] Let's finish up with the final episode for this episode, which is episode six called Broken Parts Broken Band, and I don't remember. Then, over with Lavo, she goes straight to know as a parent. Ruth is not even there yet. And says, I think actually Ruth did show up.
[01:06:48] She took up there. But she went into the bathroom. And Lavo, and she's like, so you had sex with her. And Ruth just come out of the bathroom and she's like, if you go fuck your hair. And in front of Ruth, this fucking sad,
[01:07:07] sac of a man literally says, no, I didn't. And then right now, front of fucking Ruth says, why would you joke about that? This fucking guy is gaslighting fucking Ruth. And Lavo, at the same fucking time that is a fucking art. This man is like,
[01:07:31] I'm gonna deny that I did I. How do you fucking deny when A is your being fucking filmed, my guy? We don't need to hear a lot. When we're literally seeing the bed sheets go up and down. In the area where your ass is, sir.
[01:07:54] And I think anyone who has sex can put two and two together, that's shit. You know what I mean? Like, it's as ridiculous to me. That alone we have the video fucking footage. You're fucking, okay? And then you have a Ruth who is probably like,
[01:08:13] what bed if it is it's our to lie about whether or not she's had sex with you. Because that is not only gonna blow up your relationship with Lavo, but it can potentially blow her relationship and Isaac. How what benefit is it to her to lie about this?
[01:08:31] And you literally say, who I was joke about that? You're fucking sad. Fuck you. This fucking guy. But... Yeah, so he says that. And she goes to her apartment where Adon is, and Adon has no fucking clue what's going on, okay? But she's pissed. She's the human
[01:08:57] and he's following her, no one else following her. And he tries to kind of rob Adon in. Because he's like, in, in, didn't I say, they can nothing happen today? How can you go to the, to a person who is not in your fucking apartment at night?
[01:09:16] And ask him to co-operate your fucking story? But in kind of, doesn't eat and literally looks at him and shakes his head like, he shakes his, it's very gently. Because he shakes his head and, but says, I don't fucking know guy. But honestly, how I interpreted that,
[01:09:36] that no, the shake of that, is, no, you're not being fucking fruitful. Because in the end moment, not only do you have fucking lindle, say this guy's bullshiting. You also had an insane, there's no fucking way. And you literally had an earlier, and so far I think,
[01:09:57] where he says something like, right, no, he's hiding something. So no, no one's gonna fucking agree with you, a quarry, your fucking bullshit has story, because no one believes that nothing is happening. I can believe that with Genesis and Courtney, nothing is happening.
[01:10:15] I can believe that would play all night and nothing is happening. But when you have lindle, tell me it's just happening. Nikatu and Sisa, she's happening. Fuck, even Kenyan, I like remaking out with each other. Shit is happening. So you want to believe that nothing is happening,
[01:10:32] not even a little bit. Soxpoiler alert Genesis, does eventually cause Courtney. Shit's happening. So it's like, no, I don't fucking buy it. No one buys it. I just believe Adena Lope. It's sweet baby Adena Lope. He's like, my heart and eyes were shit. But she's upset that Sisa,
[01:10:56] as long as she's upset to the point where it says in the cats, we're just in their apartment in their own business, or what the fuck? It even tells him, we're alone for a ride out. Let her process was going on. She's upset, clearly we've for me,
[01:11:11] based on that. So I have a room where it is. But someone goes back to Ruth. And so I was in the villa. He has back to Ruth. Anywhere at least has to her. We agreed that they couldn't find out like this. Find out which, okay, okay,
[01:11:28] let's play game here everybody. Or let's date the fucking obvious, but are you out? If they were to find out in this way, you're going to them. And saying by the way, we need to be a little cheerful here, but what happened?
[01:11:51] So much way would you have done it? And would you have done it? Because I feel like any other way would have been wrong. Finding out like a tell-all would have been wrong or the reunion one of it wrong. Finding out while watching the episodes,
[01:12:07] whatever it is wrong. Which other way would you have told them? Because if what's it going to be in this way, which way? When he said that, and I then went away, were you going to tell them? Because any way you flipped this,
[01:12:25] what had been the wrong way? I'm so confused by him. But yeah, he says, yeah, Ruth, fucking asshole, and Targa's husband, then Nola, after I think being plumped it, or maybe he said it himself. Well then if you're going to tell, label, I'm going to tell Isaac,
[01:12:49] but we're, Ruth is like, no, don't call him. Why? If label has the details, now the privilege of knowing what the fuck happened. Why, Isaac, now is it that? Ruth knows enough to know, not to tell him in this way? Or, or what? I'm just curious.
[01:13:18] I just want to know why, can't Isaac be roped into this? But he says, come to the villa. And he can hear, like, Ruth's the background being like, no, don't come, Isaac, what the fuck is happening? But he says, no, I'm coming. So he's on the way.
[01:13:39] And once he gets there, he just blurt out, not even a thought on his fucking mind, and says, yeah, so near Ruth, that sucks. And wait, but because let's remember, up until this fucking point, Nola has been denying that they've had sex. And basically, gaslighting Ruth.
[01:14:07] It's just saying, now we didn't, the fuck you talking about. But now that Isaac has entered the chat, he's like, oh, here's what me and Rufat's acts. And Lail is like, oh, so now you're going to tell the truth.
[01:14:21] Now you're going to own up to the fact that you've had sex with her, even though, up until this fucking point, you've been lying. Your piece of shit. He's a piece of shit. And Isaac clearly, not Abby. And he says, I fucking knew it. Everyone fucking knew it.
[01:14:37] Because I didn't mention this part, either. I don't know how much I know. With the guys, night out. When they were hiding this conversation, to do with them, they were at the bar. They had actually just walked away from the group.
[01:14:57] It was like it was the end of the night or something. And I was just walked away from the group. One to the bar has conversation. And when they were having a conversation, it was kind of brought up in terms of intimacy. And, Of course, Nola denied.
[01:15:12] And Isaac and the moment literally said, like, I don't buy it. I don't feel like he's been truthful. But whatever Nola said to him, can fenced him to believe or just choose to believe what he was being told. And I knew it. Yeah. And Nola is like,
[01:15:34] why is everyone coming up me about it? Now I'll give him this. It wasn't just Nola who had sex. It takes two. You could bathe out, but it takes two. Two have sex, penetrating, type sex, usually. And in this case, it's Nola and Ruth.
[01:16:08] So they have both made a decision to have sex with each other. So I do hear Nola being like, it's not just on me. She also did it too. It's a short. But, Isaac is always going to be clear the upside with Ruth because Ruth had
[01:16:29] the obligation to be truthful, loyal to him. Nola can't do that for him. But Nola, you'll lie, treat Isaac's fucking face. That's the problem. And then with the layman saying things, you're not going to be mad at Ruth because, I mean, I would personally mad at Ruth,
[01:16:56] honestly if I was her because we know we came in here to do. We will talk more about this. So as more in the, in the reunion, we'll kind of a little bit more of an answer.
[01:17:08] I saw why Ruth did this and I will talk about it then. But it's like, she's not going to be mad at Ruth. She says anyways, so she's not going to be mad at Ruth because Ruth doesn't have the loyalty to her. Nola does.
[01:17:25] Nola has the loyalty to label. And not only that, but Nola has the loyalty. No, I didn't have sex with her. No, I didn't hold her hand. No, I didn't do this. No, I didn't do that. And it's not only about Ruth, but this pre-deats this experiment.
[01:17:44] They eat, does this to her. No, I didn't do this. No, I didn't do that. I call everybody sweet heart. Whatever the fuck. Like it's just, it's, that's where the anchor comes from. But everyone else's going to be pissed off with you, Nola because you lied about it.
[01:18:01] Whereas Ruth is lying. She's only up. She's like, yeah, I fucking end. Like that's what she is. I have to get propulsive at the end. Like who gives a shit. So of course I did. Like who cares? Like I'll give her that.
[01:18:16] But that's not not even he's doing that. Yeah, I fucked her and what? He's constantly in this state. If I kind of still preserve. And you have to constantly be in that state then stuff fucking cheated. But it's, yeah, it's,
[01:18:38] men do it all the fucking time until they finally get caught. And I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, sorry, I'll talk about my ex actually. I thought, as I used that as an example, my money is my current relationship. That's an example.
[01:18:56] But because difference with him is he would own up to him from the most part. But with, with my ex, I knew he was cheating on me. No, what I was saying? No, I was cheating. New stuff that was up. It didn't have the fucking proof.
[01:19:10] And I was a kind of person. Don't fuck with me. I'm going to find out who you were cheating on me with. And I found a girl. Found a girl. I'll call her Amy. Found a girl and said, yeah, he's definitely fucking Amy.
[01:19:27] But when I got in front of him eventually, when I did eventually find out about the cheating. And I actually much, let me tell you, because she called them while I'm my house. Anyway, why do I have a cheating? I said, is it Amy? He's like, no,
[01:19:41] it's bullies a Becky. It's Becky. Becky's the one I'm cheating with. Okay, cool. I found out that it's Becky and we're all with my life. But once Becky came into my life, because Becky got pregnant. If you want to know more,
[01:20:03] go ahead over to our next take podcast. Where I talk about that during our mental health episode, Becky got pregnant and Becky told me that he did cheat on her too. Technically, meaning he's your own mutator for people. So I'm like, oh, Becky, is that true? She's like,
[01:20:27] I'm Becky is by, I'm sorry. Becky tells me that the girl he cheated on me on her with also me was bisexual. Now, I'm not going to tell you, what's on my Amy is Amy was a bisexual woman. And I was like, oh, interesting.
[01:20:48] Took that information and backed in my ass and said, did you know person by the name of Amy? She gave me her real name. And he's like, how did you know? And that's how I knew. Because I said,
[01:21:03] I confronted your ass about her and you lied to me, shouldn't my face. You could have known that point and you chose not to. Because he has to constantly self-preserve. And that's only the tip of the iceberg of the bullshit that I was told.
[01:21:19] And you'd always self-preserve, self-preserve until I would find out the true thing. He's like, okay, yeah, it's ridiculous and it's tiresome. It is so fucking tiring. And this is the shit that a label has been going through with him. Probably the duration of the relationship. It's fucking exhausting.
[01:21:41] But we'll get to more about them later on. But yeah, but now he's kind of running away with a little bit, with everybody. And Isaac is like, break the fight. Because he's like going after him or both him and him and Labour or going after him.
[01:22:05] I think Ruth is kind of taking along here too. He's just running away with a little bitch this fucking guy. And Isaac is like, he's like Isaac is already in a fight. And he is getting up and knowledge face to the point where security has like been involved.
[01:22:23] But I understand the way Isaac is pissed. And Isaac says you were a superman when I open. And it looks like, okay, we're going to fucking throw him in. And I was supposed to do it with fuck now. Because yeah, okay, when we come over here,
[01:22:36] he is ready to go. But of course, that doesn't happen. And security jumps in. And it's like, nope. I'm not doing this. It's too late for the shit. I'm not breaking up a fight. Meanwhile, maybe Ruth wasn't there but Ruth is throwing out. No, let's just.
[01:22:54] And she's done with him. And he comes and gets his stuff. And he's like, well, we're going to be expecting my trolley relationship to end like this. Well, anyways. He said in the cartoon, she says, well, your ex told me that you're using me.
[01:23:10] And then I am easy. She did say that for a project map. And he's like, well, I don't know why she was saying that he's like, you know what? Let's go talk to Ken. What? He literally suggests, let's go talk to her figure this out.
[01:23:26] Now, I do want to everyone to hold onto this until we get to the reunion. Because I think we're going to kind of get an answer as to why she played out the way that it did.
[01:23:38] But I will be talking about it until we get to the reunion. So, yeah, he's like, I'll just go talk to her. And he'll both go to talk to her and Ken is like, what the fuck do you all hear? He kind of situation.
[01:23:51] He's like, I don't know if I'd chew and let you over here. And see, sit down in front of Ken. He can't even say that. I'm fucking sitting for her. Then does he have a cartoon just... he just dips and he's her there.
[01:24:08] And she's like, why are you leaving? Why the fuck do you leave? I've thought when he said let's go there and talk to her but he was going to stick around and talk to her as well. No, he's stepped. Are you flinging them?
[01:24:23] But I think we get a little bit of an explanation as to who or a little bit understanding as to why he did or why he may be better yet comfortable to do so. But yeah, so he has dips. I think Kenya...
[01:24:37] I'm sorry but I was fucking live it. So excuse me with my choice words that I might use about her because I was just fucking disgusting. Kenya tells Caesar basically she's fat dreaming her and says to her, I know how you'd have said
[01:24:56] your fat ass on my chair. Get your fat ass off my chair. And all of this, like this is what she's saying to her, get that your fat ass off my patio. Like this is what she said. I'm not kidding you. I would have loved nothing more.
[01:25:10] If I could have pulled her ass out of my TV do we actually pull the fucking ringer out of the TV and punch the shit out of her? I'm saying I'm Queen Latifa and she's a other bitch in the scared movie
[01:25:26] three I would have beat the fucking living shhh you liar. I was so pissed for Caesar in that moment because the other thing too that Caesar had says to everybody in the girls' nineties like my laugh, I understand it can be annoying but I'm not always laughing because
[01:25:46] to laugh, because I'm happy or whatever I'm also doing it because sometimes I am nervous. It's a nervous reaction, which blends me to believe it's some sort of trauma response as well. Maybe not? It is not to be natively like serious
[01:26:06] but this could be her way of coping. And while Kenya is saying all the shit to her getting up in her face, telling her to leave I feel like I've received that she starts laughing because she's clearly terrified. She's clearly feeling really lost right now
[01:26:31] and you can tell she's looking over her shoulder hoping that she's still there to help her through this to protect her from his crazy ex and he's nowhere to be found I felt so horrible for her. And again, I don't want to make excuses for Kenya.
[01:26:56] I do, I can re-re-re-tweep him lines and realize that she's reacting and the way that she is because she feels threatened by Caesar. Because if it wasn't Caesar, it was going to be somebody else who's even out like this way. And I... I understand that.
[01:27:25] But in no fucking way, do you body shame another woman in the way that she did? Is sick? And I mean a lot of shit. Well, you don't have to be a bigger woman to be body-shaimed. People can embody shame you, Kenya,
[01:27:49] for being too skinny or having no boobs. Yeah, no boobs. She does now. We'll talk about it. But is it like, people can say she should go you too. But instead of that, lead with kindness, you issued the ultimate to him up there the way around.
[01:28:13] So you don't have the right to be upset? Yeah, it's... I mean this is a conspiracy theory. But I do wonder if she is acting this by maybe this at the type of woman he would usually go for. Maybe he typically didn't go
[01:28:31] for when men have a quiet Kenya. Maybe he was more attracted to Chuck Eirkerals. She's not all overweight. She's chunky. She got me on her. Men will love that shit. Maybe this is what he was more attracted to. Who knows? And maybe this comes from something
[01:28:49] or maybe giving her too much fucking credit. And it's just her hearing their own insecurities. I don't know. But while we're having meltdowns with fucking Nala, Ruth, Isaac, and Labo we're going to both have another meltdown with Caesar. And she goes back to him
[01:29:10] and she gets upset with him because she's like, you'll have to be there. Why did you leave me there? He's like, you know how she is. And you left me there. I'm going to say this now. And no one will ever say
[01:29:25] it was one quick line because I don't want to go too far at and talk about the other of so it's. He didn't. He didn't know that this was how she was going to be. And he will say as much later on he did not.
[01:29:37] He's never seen a soft like that before from her. So I do fully think he believed that she was going to be okay. That she wasn't going to be treated in a way that was hurtful. I do think that. I still don't agree with him leaving her,
[01:29:59] but I don't think he thought like she was going to tear her new one. But then he goes back to Kenya to confront her because like sees us freaking out. She's crying. She's pulling. And he goes back to Kenya and she's like, what the fuck?
[01:30:20] Like what did you say to her? What did you do? Like what the hell? But she's acting the exact same way and says, get the fuck off my porch. Like going out in, bubblepog and like it fell fuck off my porch. I didn't ask you to be here
[01:30:34] and I didn't invite you. But all of the issues she's just going off. She's the issues she's saying. Like through disrespectful to me, you really hurt her. Come over here just to suspect me. It's really fucking funny when someone says you're disrespecting me or you're
[01:30:48] having a remote over here and it's respect me when you're being the most respectful person in the equation. And that's shit. And he does leave. And Isaac comes back after his drama with Noah and Ruth. And he doesn't actually say anything. Like he's just like, he's spent emotionally.
[01:31:20] But he doesn't tell her about what happened. But Ken did does a husk him. What happened? You left that what happened. And he doesn't actually say anything. But Ken, yeah. Because we need to do the proper time on here before Caesar and the cops who showed up.
[01:31:47] Isaac does come back. And that's what Jesus has happened. But while he's doing his own thing, that is when they showed up. And he was there the entire time for it in Los Pard. And he literally sets like, when he sees how she treated Caesar,
[01:32:05] he literally says that's not how you treat people. What the fuck is wrong with you? Who the fuck raised you type situation? So let's talk off now with what he's going through. He just found out that his girlfriends were cheating on him throughout this process. And like physically.
[01:32:28] It's actually. And let's fuck off about that though, because we gotta talk about how Ken is being disrespected. To the point where it's for clocking the fucking morning and my cross like getting believe that he would have her come over here and disrespect me.
[01:32:51] Can you fucking believe that? Are you awake? Wake the fuck up and listen to a need of advice. What the fuck right? And he's like, I don't know the fucking sweep. He's like, I've had a long fucking day just found out about girlfriends.
[01:33:03] Fucking fucking knowla behind my back. I just want to fucking sleep. I want to sleep. But no. Because I talk about Ken and her issues for a clock in the fucking morning. It's poor guy. Can't catch a fucking break anyway. So knowla says this in next day
[01:33:22] as he has no regrets sleeping with Ruth. Good fucking milk. But he feels really pad. He feels really bad for Leibald, but he issues in the bow. And Leibald is also choosing the bow out obviously. And she says this is it. Let's use dumb.
[01:33:39] If she's dumb with him, she's not going to go back to him. It's over. We'll see. Isaac goes and talks to Edin and tells him about what happened. And he says like I don't want to go right back to her. Like he does it.
[01:33:59] There are about to do the change to really soon. There's their trial marriages are ending soon. And he's supposed to be going back to Ruth. And he's like, I don't want to. Like I don't blame him. Or feeling that way. Anyway.
[01:34:18] The tattoos of hers is sees a with dinner on their patio. And he'll come out like you literally see it. There's not a lot of focus on it. It's really fucking quick.
[01:34:30] But behind his head, don't we see fucking Kenya and Isaac coming out as other patio and she clocks it. But then that's it. We don't see anything and after that, there's no. You know, snide remarks from her or anything. It's that. That's not that.
[01:34:49] Linda Le says that he is a left tabby again called. But now it's changed over. And oh no. No one actually knew that label. I would know that. She left. I'd know a new. Which is I think obviously like Edin. New Ruth.
[01:35:12] New sense that new enough to know like her job marriage was over. But I don't know if she knew fully, but I think really Edin was one of probably the only people. Maybe you also Isaac were the only ones I knew for that. So.
[01:35:26] But it has to last. There is kind of been like everybody and Linda Le says that maybe I am not really ready for marriage after all. And sees us like the fuck you say. You brought me here and I was in a you know what I'm married. It's.
[01:35:44] Well, if then that should happen. Can you have a leave that she taught Isaac something? Isaac the fuck you say. The fuck you teach me. He did. She she she did teach him nothing or two because. Against more the alert.
[01:36:02] He doesn't learn how to cook at some points. He doesn't give up. But he does kind of say that or he wonders like if things would have been better with play bow if he picked her after all because you know,
[01:36:14] get it was not exactly the way he thought it would go. But you don't care. She's like, I wouldn't want to be with anyone like him. Cool cool cool.
[01:36:25] I just didn't want to invest in him and maybe that's like I can kind of understand her a little bit. I just didn't want to invest in him.
[01:36:32] So maybe with that being said was the reason I kind of disin spite of her man because she's just a one to invest in that,
[01:36:39] which I think it had a little more to do with his more traditional ideas of what he kind of expects even though he says I could all expect things but he kind of. Roots says I have to expect less from them.
[01:36:55] Kind of going and she doesn't know how many really high expectations with like with Isaac. She doesn't he has to join up before so why would I expect him to show up now.
[01:37:04] And she's kind of in his views making excuses for her actions and he's like I'm not going to take a and I I hear him because I don't know if that's certainly she's making excuses.
[01:37:20] I think it's more she's being very truthful and very honest with the reasons for why she did what she did with Nola and that is bothering him. And I kept it but I think last words before we do the change back in canyases.
[01:37:41] I don't want to do this with him. I can't stand him and jeed me's not got to she can't stand them.
[01:37:49] And we're going to see how that's going to turn out in the next episode but that is it for episode six and that is it for our episode.
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